Another investigation bites the dust!

Two investigations into City’s practices remain ongoing: - Premier League investigation into conduct regarding the signing of academy players and third-party ownership. - Fifa looking into deals involving a number of teenagers signed from abroad by City. [@_pauljoyce]

City continue to be at loggerheads with Uefa after a two-month investigation, based on separate allegations in Der Spiegel, concluded that the Premier League champions were in violation of financial fair play procedures. [@_pauljoyce]

we got got a fine for the youth players did we not
 
we got got a fine for the youth players did we not

Joyce may have slightly muddled a couple of things, but it is possible that he's just talking about something else.

The third-party thing is an academy in Denmark (?) which might be viewed as having an influence over the players - possibly close enough to third party ownership to need clarifying as to what it entails or what is allowed. Better explanations of that exist!

As it it youth players and academy-related (not City's academy), it's not definitely wrong although it could be read that way.
 
Joyce may have slightly muddled a couple of things, but it is possible that he's just talking about something else.

The third-party thing is an academy in Denmark (?) which might be viewed as having an influence over the players - possibly close enough to third party ownership to need clarifying as to what it entails or what is allowed. Better explanations of that exist!

As it it youth players and academy-related (not City's academy), it's not definitely wrong although it could be read that way.
The story seems to be that players were signed from that academy by Danish club FC Nordsjælland but that we had a say over their possible sale, which could be construed as third-party ownership.

Allegedly we sponsored the Right To Dream academy, which allowed them to underwrite the expenses of the players who attended. There is alleged to have been a clause in the agreement with FC Nordsjælland that we had first refusal on the players or could take 25% of the fee if they were sold elsewhere. FC Nordsjælland denied there was any such agreement in place & City said there was no illegality.

The PL reported they were investigating this but it was a while ago so it's not clear whether any formal investigation was opened or is still ongoing or it was just a case of enquiries being made.
 
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Can we have recap please.

Where are we up.to?

Who's cleared us, who's still after us, and why?

Thanks.
 
As a starting point that others can fill more detail on:

Closed:
FIFA - breaches of youth transfer regs. Fined Aug 2019
FA - payments to Sancho's agent, based on Spiegel leaks. Reportedly cleared Oct 2019 (nothing from FA that I've seen)

Ongoing:
UEFA - misrepresentation of sponsorship sources (based on Spiegel leaks); investigatory chamber of UEFA have passed recommendations to adjudicatory chamber May 2019. Appeal regarding this action submitted to CAS June 2019.
PL - FFP breaches if Spiegel leaks are proved
FA - 3rd party ownership potential issues (see https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/...n-bites-the-dust.343005/page-13#post-12186042 for more details)
FA - Bernardo's tweet
 
As a starting point that others can fill more detail on:

Closed:
FIFA - breaches of youth transfer regs. Fined Aug 2019
FA - payments to Sancho's agent, based on Spiegel leaks. Reportedly cleared Oct 2019 (nothing from FA that I've seen)

Ongoing:
UEFA - misrepresentation of sponsorship sources (based on Spiegel leaks); investigatory chamber of UEFA have passed recommendations to adjudicatory chamber May 2019. Appeal regarding this action submitted to CAS June 2019.
PL - FFP breaches if Spiegel leaks are proved
FA - 3rd party ownership potential issues (see https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/...n-bites-the-dust.343005/page-13#post-12186042 for more details)
FA - Bernardo's tweet
I'm not convinced about the PL's FFP investigation. There isn't anything in the Der Spiegel stuff that would contravene those that I can see.

The only possible issue with the PL rules is that you're only allowed to increase wages by a certain amount if supported by increases in UEFA TV revenues, commercial revenue or matchday revenue.

However there's an alternative basis of calculation, which is that you're allowed to "baseline" wages to the value reported in the 2013 accounts and increase the level from there. In that financial year we paid off Mancini and his coaching staff, which we classed as wages instead of an exceptional item. That's because we paid their contractual 2-year severance agreement in full rather than coming to a separately negotiated arrangement with them. That meant our wage bill in 2013 was £233m and it would make complete sense if that was the baseline figure we used going forward.

Our employee costs in 2017/18 were £260m compared to something like £240m pro-rata over 12 months in 2017 (they were £264m over 13 months). We were allowed a basic increase of £26m from 2013 so our celiling before any other revenue uplifts were taken into account was £259m so there should be no issue as we've more than covered any additional requirements via CL media and matchday revenue alone, without taking commercial income into account. Our 2019 ceiling is £266m (2013 + £33m) but increases in UEFA/Matchday revenue alone is £47m so we could report wages up to £313m on that basis and we could also add in the average transfer profit over 3 years, which is something like £30m, if necessary plus any increase in commercial income not derived from Abu Dhabi.

In short, nothing to fear from the PL's rules therefore.
 
As a starting point that others can fill more detail on:

Closed:
FIFA - breaches of youth transfer regs. Fined Aug 2019
FA - payments to Sancho's agent, based on Spiegel leaks. Reportedly cleared Oct 2019 (nothing from FA that I've seen)

Ongoing:
UEFA - misrepresentation of sponsorship sources (based on Spiegel leaks); investigatory chamber of UEFA have passed recommendations to adjudicatory chamber May 2019. Appeal regarding this action submitted to CAS June 2019.
PL - FFP breaches if Spiegel leaks are proved
FA - 3rd party ownership potential issues (see https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/...n-bites-the-dust.343005/page-13#post-12186042 for more details)
FA - Bernardo's tweet
I'm still waiting for the PL/FA to launch an investigation into Pep 'accusing' Mane of diving. He didn't actually accuse him of course as he was just stating a fact that even the referee the other day finally agreed with.
 

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