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Mike D said:
The referendum should never have happened in the first place it was Cameron's fault because he though he was fucking Jesus or something after winning the Scottish referendum (mainly due to the interventions of Brown and Darling) he thought he could part the red sea or see off the ERG and paint Farage's face and it failed spectaculary. One of the problems with referendums if that they need to be conclusive you need late 60's 70% for them to work. You cannot do anything for the greater good of the people when you have narrow win it just doesn't work. What we are seeing now is just proof of all that. Most people aren't fools its politicians that think that are cleverer than them and can take them for fools that are.
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Somehow I don't think we would be hearing this argument if remain had won by 4%

The only people who seem to think it was a bad idea are usually those on the losing side. That is just human nature.

Most people aren't fools its politicians that think that are cleverer than them and can take them for fools that are. This bit is very true, This is why those that have consistently tried to overturn the ref result in Parliament using every excuse under the sun will suffer at the next GE. It is also apparent that many know this, that is why many of them are conveniently stepping down at the next GE. You could call it a cowards way out ?
 
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George Hannah said:
A rare and interesting tweet from what Remainers (and many others) consider the heart of darkness


Still going for No Deal gold....
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Like Baker, he will have bought much gold since 2016. Threat of no deal and £ goes down. Meanwhile gold price goes up. Possible deal and opposite is true. Now, if you’re holding much gold why might a no deal option be attractive?
As an aside, and without favouring either ‘side’ it surely cannot be right the MP’s are making money by dint of changes in mood in the HOC. Legislators making cash as a direct result of their voting.
It’s insider trading at its worst and nobody seems to be bothered.
 
George Hannah said:
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who needs the IRA?
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Without them McDonnell will need some more wall art... the hunger strikers commemorative plaque will be irrelevant then
 
Unfortunately the tv and radio likes to interview extreme views, farage, Swindon, snp , but the reality is most people just want an end to this[/QUOTE]
Until they realise it is just the beginning......there are clever people who keep trotting out the jingle "just get it done" as though it was akin to booking a cruise or shaving off a beard. The very same "head-in-sand mind-set that religious cults(cults) generate and depend on. Impervious to logic, reason and truth, the more their delusion is pointed out, the more the denial and hostility . Brexiteers, overwhelmingly tory, and their media cheer-leaders paying for the gig even more right-wing, have thrown "the kitchen sink" at the "heretics" not under the spell and deaf to the tin-whistle of farage as the would-be pied piper, the wall of sound-bites from the far-right lie factory, and now..."people just want it done". Wishful whistling in the daylight, just another pretence to be the "voice of the people" (as f'kin if) . Unless by "people" they mean themselves, they are not even the voice of a third of the people, but to zealots that is a mere detail to be filed under "ignore" . The sum of all brexit fears is the "people" having a chance to show what they now think of a brexit without the wrapping of blatant absolute lies...
One Johnie Bercow, there's only one Johnie Bercow, one ........:):):)
 
Coatigan said:
Doesn't matter in the slightest. All that matters, is, Leave Won, it is done now, can't go back. Just get on with it! Democracy.

etc etc.
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Well we certainly cant go back on the basis of this. The no 1 criminal is now running the country.

On a serious note, I wonder why its been left to Lucas to run with this. You would have thought it would be meat and drink to the leaders of the opposition parties!
 
bellbuzzer said:
Until they realise it is just the beginning......there are clever people who keep trotting out the jingle "just get it done" as though it was akin to booking a cruise or shaving off a beard. The very same "head-in-sand mind-set that religious cults(cults) generate and depend on. Impervious to logic, reason and truth, the more their delusion is pointed out, the more the denial and hostility . Brexiteers, overwhelmingly tory, and their media cheer-leaders paying for the gig even more right-wing, have thrown "the kitchen sink" at the "heretics" not under the spell and deaf to the tin-whistle of farage as the would-be pied piper, the wall of sound-bites from the far-right lie factory, and now..."people just want it done". Wishful whistling in the daylight, just another pretence to be the "voice of the people" (as f'kin if) . Unless by "people" they mean themselves, they are not even the voice of a third of the people, but to zealots that is a mere detail to be filed under "ignore" . The sum of all brexit fears is the "people" having a chance to show what they now think of a brexit without the wrapping of blatant absolute lies...
One Johnie Bercow, there's only one Johnie Bercow, one ........:):):)
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It isn't going to "get done" without at least starting, is it.
 
bellbuzzer said:
Unfortunately the tv and radio likes to interview extreme views, farage, Swindon, snp , but the reality is most people just want an end to this
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Until they realise it is just the beginning......there are clever people who keep trotting out the jingle "just get it done" as though it was akin to booking a cruise or shaving off a beard. The very same "head-in-sand mind-set that religious cults(cults) generate and depend on. Impervious to logic, reason and truth, the more their delusion is pointed out, the more the denial and hostility . Brexiteers, overwhelmingly tory, and their media cheer-leaders paying for the gig even more right-wing, have thrown "the kitchen sink" at the "heretics" not under the spell and deaf to the tin-whistle of farage as the would-be pied piper, the wall of sound-bites from the far-right lie factory, and now..."people just want it done". Wishful whistling in the daylight, just another pretence to be the "voice of the people" (as f'kin if) . Unless by "people" they mean themselves, they are not even the voice of a third of the people, but to zealots that is a mere detail to be filed under "ignore" . The sum of all brexit fears is the "people" having a chance to show what they now think of a brexit without the wrapping of blatant absolute lies...
One Johnie Bercow, there's only one Johnie Bercow, one ........:):):)[/QUOTE]
The latest lie is 'we have the numbers'.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
But its not tho is it...... there are some on here and many many others who want out at any cost ...... there seems to no compromise.
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I think that Remainers need to pause and consider what they have played a large role in bringing about

So before you/others just jump in with critical posts - I ask you to just pause and think about....

You say:

"...... there are some on here and many many others who want out at any cost ...... there seems to no compromise."

And of course you are talking about Brexit supporters - some possibly wanting a No-Deal Brexit - correct?

I really do not think this is correct - I really do not think that there are many/any on here who have 'No-Deal' as their preferred Leave outcome.

But even though I am sure that I am right on that, let's treat it as hypothetically correct and analyse how that would come about....

If it was so then it would have had to be a recent situation - can only have become possible since Boris was elected as we were all talking about May's deal before then.

So you are now concerned about what you feel and hear - but I would ask you to think about how Leave supporters would have been feeling during the 3 years prior to Boris getting elected.

3 years in which - for sure you would be correct to say - if you were referencing Remainers that have wanted to Remain and were not willing to compromise:

"...... there are some on here and many many others who want to fully Remain at any cost ...... there seems to no compromise."

That has been absolutely the situation for over 3 years - it has been forthright and absolutely uncompromising - presented in an arrogant and often aggressive manner

This is the sort of action and attitudes that drive people with the opposite view towards extreme positions of their own

I think that Remainers should take some responsibility for the way they have driven Leaver opinion - you complain about hard Brexit views now - did you complain about hard Remain views before - during the period 6 times as long?

And back to the original point I made - that you are wrong to think that there are Leavers on here and many many others that want to Leave without compromise - let's test that....

Can you name any Leaver on here that will not be satisfied with less than No-Deal as their preferred outcome? - Please name them

I bet I can name many more Remain posters that will not be satisfied with less than Remaining in the EU as their preferred outcome.
 
Bluemanc100 said:
Why is this being peddled by the opposition? Why will the PM or Govt consider destroying worker's rights? I just don't see it happening....
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Whenever I hear this about worker's rights, I have a vision of the Tories sending us all up chimneys for 18 hours a day, every day.

I wouldn't mind but the current legislation doesn't stop unscrupulous cunts like that fat bastard Mike Ashley from treating his staff like shit. In any case, if the government really does go ahead and piss all over worker's rights to the extent that some are predicting, they'll know about it at the next General Election.
 
FlemishDuck said:
What the fuck is wrong with you. Yes i asked questions, because i hoped people would explain to me, not to receive completly unnesecary arrogant haughty remarks about how i am not informed about decade's of speakers about Bercow. DUH. I'm allowed to not be all knowing and ask questions. I asked other questions to you and you didn't answer those, but you did write a long post to emphasise that there was something i don't know and that hence i should feel ashamed for it? What sort of rediculous childish beghaviour is that? Just a enourmesly rediculous thing for you to write a reply of that lenght just to not answer the question but remark "i wont waste my time with you" while actually ironicly replying

And i have to say, for me this was youre final chance, from now on youre on my ignore list. It's not because i have something against you, it's just that it's absolutly worthless and a complete waste of time to debate with you and i'm tired to see youre posts clutter the thread as if it should invite to post to that nonesense. I neither expect you to see "the light" if i explain it to you, youre stubborn AF and arrogant at it.
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I worked that out a long time ago, hence only the occasional very brief response to his posts. They don't merit any detailed consideration.
 
west didsblue said:
I worked that out a long time ago, hence only the occasional very brief response to his posts. They don't merit any detailed consideration.
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Ignore list is rather permanent and not something i use lightly, the problem however is that as i mentioned i would not want to be enticed to reply to him anymore because i'd feel that would be "feeding him", not seeing his posts thus woud appear usefull for that goal.
 
The trouble we’re going to have is that the opposition will reject any Brexit deal the Tories come up with.

Every Brexit deal is going to make us worse off but a FTA, or the opportunity to agree one once the WA has been passed, has to be accepted now.

I think Corbyn knows he’s political screwed if he votes for the deal but the fact is, he could be screwed if he continues to try and block it.

The vote should have taken place on Saturday, it’s embarrassing that it didn’t.
 
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