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Len Rum said:
No deal if it happens will be the fault of Corbyn and Swinson, particularly Jezza?
Fcuk's sake.
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Have you even tried to understand?

Did you read the posts from several people?

This is not opinion - just obvious facts
 
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KS55 said:
The best example of that was Cameron's veto of the increase in the EU budget. The others simply drew up an inter governmental agreement outside EU supervision.
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And over recent years - there have been so many posts from Remainers taking comfort in the fact that the UK had 'opt-outs' - surely the posters understood how they would become worthless?

I think being disingenuous is a better look than not being able to understand these things
 
mcfc1632 said:
Have you even tried to understand?
Did you read the posts from several people?
This is not opinion - just obvious facts
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Mate stop going on about Jezza being responsible for no deal Brexit if it happens.
No deal is so last summer anyway.
Let me tell you where the smart money is.
The final deal will be a basic Canada style deal on goods without any price tariffs or quotas but subject to level playing field rules, the adherence to which will be monitored by an independent body.
It won't be possible to cover all goods sectors by end 2020 so the deal will be signed with some goods traded on WTO terms until they can be brought into the agreement.
Services won't be covered except for financial ones which will be subject to regulatory equivalence ( less integration than currently).
A deal of this nature has always been on offer from the EU from the start.
It will however be hailed as a victory giving us everything we want.
Most people don't understand the difference between price tariffs and non tariff barriers and won't notice that services aren't covered.
If the above negotiations fail then trade will be initially on WTO terms until a more comprehensive deal on the above terms can be sorted. Essential stuff like airline flights, road transport ,basic security, provision of essential supplies ( both ways)will be covered separately.
Hope this helps.
 
Len Rum said:
Mate stop going on about Jezza being responsible for no deal Brexit if it happens.
No deal is so last summer anyway.
Let me tell you where the smart money is.
The final deal will be a basic Canada style deal on goods without any price tariffs or quotas but subject to level playing field rules, the adherence to which will be monitored by an independent body.
It won't be possible to cover all goods sectors by end 2020 so the deal will be signed with some goods traded on WTO terms until they can be brought into the agreement.
Services won't be covered except for financial ones which will be subject to regulatory equivalence ( less integration than currently).
A deal of this nature has always been on offer from the EU from the start.
It will however be hailed as a victory giving us everything we want.
Most people don't understand the difference between price tariffs and non tariff barriers and won't notice that services aren't covered.
If the above negotiations fail then trade will be initially on WTO terms until a more comprehensive deal on the above terms can be sorted. Essential stuff like airline flights, road transport ,basic security, provision of essential supplies ( both ways)will be covered separately.
Hope this helps.
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Sums it up nicely. No great disaster, no great triumph. The devil will be in some arcane arguments, say on banking.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
its a reminder that Brexit has happened because no one would have a f*ckin clue otherwise - nothing will change for the better from it, just more years wasted to claw back the billions we’ve lost making it happen. Rule Britannia !
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It's why brexiteers never answer what will be better about the country after brexit. Just blame some group for why it's gone badly and kick the can down the road

The EU will be blamed for being intransigent in a few years when it's still not made the country better.
 
aguerrrroooooooooooo said:
It's why brexiteers never answer what will be better about the country after brexit. Just blame some group for why it's gone badly and kick the can down the road

The EU will be blamed for being intransigent in a few years when it's still not made the country better.
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it’s amazing how the majority just think ‘they’ve won’ and now couldn’t care less about the pro’s or cons , just gone back to their daily lives after screaming on end about how evil the EU is and posting farage videos all day on social media.

** except mcfc1632 who clearly can’t let Brexit go and must need daily validation about how right he was.
 
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BlueHammer85 said:
it’s amazing how the majority just think ‘they’ve won’ and now couldn’t care less about the pro’s or cons , just gone back to their daily lives after screaming on end about how evil the EU is and posting farage videos all day on social media.
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It's funny because many of the working class who vote for right wing projects like brexit will be hit hardest by it, yet claim it as a win.

Turkey's do vote for Xmas it seems
 
Len Rum said:
Mate stop going on about Jezza being responsible for no deal Brexit if it happens.
No deal is so last summer anyway.
Let me tell you where the smart money is.
The final deal will be a basic Canada style deal on goods without any price tariffs or quotas but subject to level playing field rules, the adherence to which will be monitored by an independent body.
It won't be possible to cover all goods sectors by end 2020 so the deal will be signed with some goods traded on WTO terms until they can be brought into the agreement.
Services won't be covered except for financial ones which will be subject to regulatory equivalence ( less integration than currently).
A deal of this nature has always been on offer from the EU from the start.
It will however be hailed as a victory giving us everything we want.
Most people don't understand the difference between price tariffs and non tariff barriers and won't notice that services aren't covered.
If the above negotiations fail then trade will be initially on WTO terms until a more comprehensive deal on the above terms can be sorted. Essential stuff like airline flights, road transport ,basic security, provision of essential supplies ( both ways)will be covered separately.
Hope this helps.
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Len - not a problem - I understand that you are uncomfortable with inconvenient truths

I was posting the facts for the benefit of others
 
aguerrrroooooooooooo said:
It's why brexiteers never answer what will be better about the country after brexit. Just blame some group for why it's gone badly and kick the can down the road

The EU will be blamed for being intransigent in a few years when it's still not made the country better.
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if you have finished your brief career as a satirical racist comic I will answer this for you.

1 not pay billions of pounds to the eu to be spent in Poland Portugal or Spain but instead in Plymouth Peterborough and Scunthorpe.

2 be able to have a managed global immigration system bringing in the best talent we need from around the globe.

3 be able to have a new trade agreement with Europe but leave the political system.

4 remove an unnecessary political level of beuracracy we have in our society. We have too many politicians in this country, even when we remove this layer.

5 forge new trade agreements on our own with other countries around the world.

6 decide ourselves what laws and regulations we want.

is that ok for you?

perhaps you could do me a favour and do a list all of those scare mongering stories that were pedalled by you and others that have come true. By now I am supposed to be Iiving in a cave eating roadkill.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
if you have finished your brief career as a satirical racist comic I will answer this for you.

1 not pay billions of pounds to the eu to be spent in Poland Portugal or Spain but instead in Plymouth Peterborough and Scunthorpe.

2 be able to have a managed global immigration system bringing in the best talent we need from around the globe.

3 be able to have a new trade agreement with Europe but leave the political system.

4 remove an unnecessary political level of beuracracy we have in our society. We have too many politicians in this country, even when we remove this layer.

5 forge new trade agreements on our own with other countries around the world.

6 decide ourselves what laws and regulations we want.

is that ok for you?

perhaps you could do me a favour and do a list all of those scare mongering stories that were pedalled by you and others that have come true. By now I am supposed to be Iiving in a cave eating roadkill.
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you missed off the Festival of Brexit.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
Yeah sorry I was considering adding that, but I think if they do it , it will be known in history as the Brexit Riots . I am not sure remainers are happy to sit back and let leavers celebrate do you?
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Ha, I doubt it. Seems a bit daft to have some event promoting unity on the most divisive topic of our times.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
if you have finished your brief career as a satirical racist comic I will answer this for you.

1 not pay billions of pounds to the eu to be spent in Poland Portugal or Spain but instead in Plymouth Peterborough and Scunthorpe.

2 be able to have a managed global immigration system bringing in the best talent we need from around the globe.

3 be able to have a new trade agreement with Europe but leave the political system.

4 remove an unnecessary political level of beuracracy we have in our society. We have too many politicians in this country, even when we remove this layer.

5 forge new trade agreements on our own with other countries around the world.

6 decide ourselves what laws and regulations we want.

is that ok for you?

perhaps you could do me a favour and do a list all of those scare mongering stories that were pedalled by you and others that have come true. By now I am supposed to be Iiving in a cave eating roadkill.
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Why bother mate?

Its been said thousands of times over the last 3 years, they dont want to listen and will just claim no one has answered their never ending questions to which they dont really actually want any answers.
 
blueinsa said:
Its not angst, its incredulity that some remain campaigners just cant look past their own noses.

It managed to lose a campaign that was almost impossible to lose and vote and for the last 3 years its not changed a single mind barely.

Its time for it to stop.
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It managed to lose a campaign BY 600,000 VOTES that was almost impossible to lose because of illegal overspending by the Leave campaign and interference by Cambridge Analytica and for the last 3 years its not changed a single mind barely because of the failure of government and the electoral commission to investigate the matters properly.

Any sign of the Russia report yet?
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
It managed to lose a campaign BY 600,000 VOTES that was almost impossible to lose because of illegal overspending by the Leave campaign and interference by Cambridge Analytica and for the last 3 years its not changed a single mind barely because of the failure of government and the electoral commission to investigate the matters properly.

Any sign of the Russia report yet?
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