Another new Brexit thread

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

despite your hopes it is going to be either Martha or Arthur - the idea that it will just be the same (ish) is delusional.

Sorry for thinking the wrong thing, and also for posting it.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

The first yes. The second inevitable as a response.
Being adult does not preclude spectacular stupidity.

I thought it was pathetic by both sides tbh.

 

[BobKowalski]

Yep

The bit about the council have to rush out notice letters to residents warning of possible disruption is like ‘guys you’ve had four fucking years to pick a site, do the whole consult residents thing, plan it and build it’. Six months to go and we’ve just sent out letters.

 

[bluethrunthru]

The bit about the council have to rush out notice letters to residents warning of possible disruption is like ‘guys you’ve had four fucking years to pick a site, do the whole consult residents thing, plan it and build it’. Six months to go and we’ve just sent out letters.

And of course that all assumes there will be no legal challenge from local residents

 

[dave_blue12]

The bit about the council have to rush out notice letters to residents warning of possible disruption is like ‘guys you’ve had four fucking years to pick a site, do the whole consult residents thing, plan it and build it’. Six months to go and we’ve just sent out letters.

That's what happens when the electorate gets sucked in by a bunch of chancers.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

That's what happens when the electorate gets sucked in by a bunch of chancers.

That's fucking democracy for you I'm afraid. All well and good when it goes the way you want.

 

[BobKowalski]

That's fucking democracy for you I'm afraid. All well and good when it goes the way you want.

No. The Swiss hold referendums on a regular basis. If incorrect information is used then the referendum is rerun. Basing a vote on erroneous information does not preclude you from rerunning that vote. You can break a legal contract if you can prove false pretences. Shouting ‘that’s democracy’ when people point out baseless lies and going ahead with the result anyway is boneheaded stupidity. But then boneheaded stupidity is how we roll these days which is why we are rushing out building notices to residents in Kent.

The next six months of boneheaded stupidity is going to be a fucking hoot.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I honestly thought I'd get a response to that - if nothing else something about other EU countries re-running referenda if the govt thinks the public made the 'wrong choice' based upon the 'wrong information'. Maybe we are moving through the 5 stages of grief towards acceptance?

 

[Vic]

I honestly thought I'd get a response to that - if nothing else something about other EU countries re-running referenda if the govt thinks the public made the 'wrong choice' based upon the 'wrong information'. Maybe we are moving through the 5 stages of grief towards acceptance?

I think everyone accepts it's a shit show.

I honestly thought that someone (you) posting a video about an economist who "has a handle on it" would respond to someone (me) who pointed out that he (the economist) thinks Brexit is a shit show.

 

[dave_blue12]

There are no depths

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

There are no depths

True though. There have been opportunities since 2016 to get rid of the Tories and brexit but the public consistently chose not to. The electorate must be aware of the dangers as barely a day has gone by since Cameron agreed to the referendum that we haven't loudly been told how terrible and disastrous brexit is.....

 

[Vic]

True though. There have been opportunities since 2016 to get rid of the Tories and brexit but the public consistently chose not to. The electorate must be aware of the dangers as barely a day has gone by since Cameron agreed to the referendum that we haven't loudly been told how terrible and disastrous brexit is.....

It's simple really. People vote to cut welfare, thinking they'll never need it. People voted to leave the EU thinking (probably rightly in most cases) that their job wasn't dependent on membership. (I'm not sure if anyone did research in Sunderland to see any difference between those who worked for Nissan and, say, those worked in Wetherspoons.)

Plus people who were never going to work again voted massively to leave and those who hadn't started work didn't get a vote.

But Leadsom was lying. Leave Without A Deal would not have won the referendum.

 

[BobKowalski]

It's simple really. People vote to cut welfare, thinking they'll never need it. People voted to leave the EU thinking (probably rightly in most cases) that their job wasn't dependent on membership. (I'm not sure if anyone did research in Sunderland to see any difference between those who worked for Nissan and, say, those worked in Wetherspoons.)

Plus people who were never going to work again voted massively to leave and those who hadn't started work didn't get a vote.

But Leadsom was lying. Leave Without A Deal would not have won the referendum.

Yes. She is lying.

I also bet the people of Ashford Kent didn’t vote to have a great big fuck off lorry park in their back garden etc but reality is you want to put borders back up, have tariffs and start doing customs checks which we abolished twenty-five years ago then you need infrastructure to do it. That was obvious back in 2106 except the Leave campaign lied about that as well.

Next six months a lot of lies will come home to roost and to be honest I will be laughing my tits off.

 

[blueinsa]

True though. There have been opportunities since 2016 to get rid of the Tories and brexit but the public consistently chose not to. The electorate must be aware of the dangers as barely a day has gone by since Cameron agreed to the referendum that we haven't loudly been told how terrible and disastrous brexit is.....

People will put up with a hell of a lot and take chances in life.

They won't accept being called thick or other names and they won't accept their votes no longer counting.

 

[bluethrunthru]

More bollocks on display here than from Buster Gonad but I love the idea that politicians will be more accountable............that was obviously suggested at another meeting Johnson didn't attend

 

[blueinsa]

More bollocks on display here than from Buster Gonad but I love the idea that politicians will be more accountable............that was obviously suggested at another meeting Johnson didn't attend

Politicians where made accountable.

Thankfully the remain turncoats all got the fucking boot by the electorate.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Yes. She is lying.

I also bet the people of Ashford Kent didn’t vote to have a great big fuck off lorry park in their back garden etc but reality is you want to put borders back up, have tariffs and start doing customs checks which we abolished twenty-five years ago then you need infrastructure to do it. That was obvious back in 2106 except the Leave campaign lied about that as well.

Next six months a lot of lies will come home to roost and to be honest I will be laughing my tits off.

PMSL

 

[bluethrunthru]

17 seats in Kent - 16 Tory 1 Labour. I wonder how many people voted Tory because they felt in dire need of a huge car park and the end of their roads?

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

PMSL

Surely this is good news? We've been repeatedly told that the Govt was doing nothing to address the post brexit lorry queues on the approach to Dover - well, now they are. Comforting to those that were ever,actually worried about it.

 

[blueinsa]

Surely this is good news? We've been repeatedly told that the Govt was doing nothing to address the post brexit lorry queues on the approach to Dover - well, now they are. Comforting to those that were ever,actually worried about it.

Backlog our side means backlog French side.

French have already said it simply will not be allowed to happen....it costs too much money you see.