Another new Brexit thread

[west didsblue]

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WTF? Mongolia? Is Yaks milk a big thing Sainsburys then?

Maybe they can build up the UK’s exports to the 144th largest importer of UK goods and increase their share from 0.005% of our total exports. Might help make up whatever downturn there is in the roughly 60% of total trade where the trading arrangements will change for the worse.

 

[Vic]

WTF? Mongolia? Is Yaks milk a big thing Sainsburys then?

Pro Orban and pro Saudi ERG type (and an immigrant pulling up the drawbridge). Looking at his parliamentary career I think this new role might be a punishment.

 

[adrianr]

Pro Orban and pro Saudi ERG type (and an immigrant pulling up the drawbridge). Looking at his parliamentary career I think this new role might be a punishment.

Hah, thinking the exact same thing. Prize twat gets sent, literally, to outer Mongolia. Wonder who he pissed off?

 

[blueinsa]

Yet the whistleblowers say differently.

As you say awkward.

One disgruntled ex employee.

I will stick with the commission's findings thanks.

Another remain myth dispelled.

 

[mcfc1632]

One disgruntled ex employee.

I will stick with the commission's findings thanks.

Another remain myth dispelled.

But they have no shame............

Quite a few posters should be flocking to this thread to demonstrate their values and characters by acknowledging that they have been proven to be wholly wrong in all the 'band-wagon jumping' comments they made. So many accusations - as if based on certainty - of this having happened and what impact it had

Any lack of them flocking to the thread to 'fess up will also be a demonstration of their values and characters.

 

[BobKowalski]

#awkward

UK probe finds no evidence that Cambridge Analytica misused data to influence Brexit

Information commissioner said she found no evidence of Russian involvement in the referendum.

www.politico.eu

The idea that there was no foreign involvement in the Brexit referendum, when there is clear evidence there was in the US and French elections, is patently absurd, especially as destabilising the EU is a Russian objective given the current EU sanctions on Russia.

You can argue the effect of that interference, you can even argue it made no significant difference, but the notion Russia gave the Brexit referendum a miss altogether is nonsense.

 

[BobKowalski]

As there is much Brexiteer angst at some posters ’taking the EU’s side’ a post from Simon Usherwood who was accused of similar and addresses the accusations.

Two paragraphs to give you a flavour of his thinking:

’The UK has consistently had a very tight circle of people around the Prime Minister determining policy, with the bare minimum of engagement with those outside government (and not a huge amount within it). Recall the fights to give Parliament, the courts or any sectoral interest a say in the various stages of creating and developing the British position.

By contrast, the EU has gone the opposite route, with a very high level of transparency from the start. Sure, that’s partly because of the terrible experience of TTIP, and partly because the EU is a very leaky organisation anyway, but still the decision to have very public binding of member states and EU institutions to the several mandates is striking.’

Sauce for the goose? | Politics @ Surrey

blogs.surrey.ac.uk

 

[BobKowalski]

I flagged a while back that with UK and Norway signing a framework on fishing with a view to commencing negotiations next year, the EU would be part of that in a three way negotiation.

Norway takes the view that any discussions will have to involve the EU and separate negotiations make no sense and this is where I think the three year transition will come into play.

’EU Commission proposes to negotiate trilateral treaty between EU, UK and Norway on fish stocks previously covered by EU/Norway fisheries agreement but no longer covered due to Brexit.

https://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/ST-11418-2020-INIT/en/pdf

Annex: https://ec.europa.eu/transparency/regdoc/rep/1/2020/EN/COM-2020-637-F1-EN-ANNEX-1-PART-1.PDF

 

[blueinsa]

The idea that there was no foreign involvement in the Brexit referendum, when there is clear evidence there was in the US and French elections, is patently absurd, especially as destabilising the EU is a Russian objective given the current EU sanctions on Russia.

You can argue the effect of that interference, you can even argue it made no significant difference, but the notion Russia gave the Brexit referendum a miss altogether is nonsense.

I accept the foreign interference no problems at all. Both the POTUS and the EU where sent in to bat for remain.

 

[BobKowalski]

I accept the foreign interference no problems at all. Both the POTUS and the EU where sent in to bat for remain.

Well, you would hardly expect the EU to campaign for Brexit, I mean let's get real here.

And talking of real, the notion that Russia took the summer of 2016 off from advancing Russian strategic interests is horseshite.