Another new Brexit thread

[bluethrunthru]

You know nothing about this.Intelligence relationships are entirely independent from all the EU/Brexit nonsense. Salman Abedi is a neat example also of a nutter that our EU membership made no difference to in the slightest.

so me and the Police have to bow to your larger sarcasm based knowledge of policing and security?

Police warn of ‘major operational impact’ after Brexit

Key information systems will be lost even if a security deal is struck before 31 December, National Crime Agency says

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

so me and the Police have to bow to your larger sarcasm based knowledge of policing and security?

Police warn of ‘major operational impact’ after Brexit

Key information systems will be lost even if a security deal is struck before 31 December, National Crime Agency says

www.independent.co.uk

Basically yes. You chose two poor examples that were entirely un-prevented from happening by the EU/Europol. You then go on to confuse the police with our intelligence and broader security services, and then cite an 'Independent' article that concentrates on one database. Within that article you then have an explanation that it's speed rather than level of access to one specific database that is compromised and the executive (PM /home Sec) in the same article stating it won't be a problem. I think you should consider intel and security in terms of layers (like an onion) rather than a chain which can fail on one link.

 

[BobKowalski]

Possibly. Or the EU blink.

Of course you won't, can't and never will admit to that but I'd wager it's very much in play right now.

Both sides will blink, both will move, both will claim victory, brexit voters will say they are happy, remain voters will claim it's a disaster and a climbdown and the debate will go on and on and on.....

The Deal is done. 800 pages and a 1,000 more in attachments. The only thing left is Johnson to say yay now or yay next year.

Brexiteers will love the deal for as long as they loved the Withdrawal Agreement. Which is about the time it takes them to read it and then understand it.

 

[ganganvince]

 

[blueinsa]

The Deal is done. 800 pages and a 1,000 more in attachments. The only thing left is Johnson to say yay now or yay next year.

Brexiteers will love the deal for as long as they loved the Withdrawal Agreement. Which is about the time it takes them to read it and then understand it.

It's done apart from a few key points Bob.

We will see who and how they blink over them.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

If ever there were a brexit issue that love (money) would find a way round, then this is it! Seriously, I'm sure the PL clubs have seen this coming and it will be interesting to see how they intend to deal with it. Also worth the caveat that this tweet is from the man who is still expecting us to have a 2 year ban from CAS.

 

[Ric]

If ever there were a brexit issue that love (money) would find a way round, then this is it! Seriously, I'm sure the PL clubs have seen this coming and it will be interesting to see how they intend to deal with it. Also worth the caveat that this tweet is from the man who is still expecting us to have a 2 year ban from CAS.

That’s not Delaney speculating. It’s an actual statement from the FA, Premier League and EFL.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

That’s not Delaney speculating. It’s an actual statement from the FA, Premier League and EFL.

Yes indeed I just thought it was worth having a pop at delaney as amateur of course. He's not my fave journo.

 

[west didsblue]

If I had to speculate, the deal was done exactly a month ago and that has prompted the 15% rise in the stock market during November. It’s all theatre now and Johnson is just waiting for the stage managed EU concession on fish, so that at the very last moment he will triumphantly announce his great victory and will basque in the glory of getting one over on the EU, just for as long as it takes for someone to actually read the deal and burst his balloon because of the UK concessions on LPF and governance. Of course I could be wrong but I would expect a lot more volatility in the markets if there was significant doubt about the outcome.

As for the actual outcome, my guess is that it won’t be far short of BRINO with extra bureaucracy which is why the markets like it. Again it’s just my opinion and I could be totally wrong.

 

[mcfc1632]

Possibly. Or the EU blink.

Of course you won't, can't and never will admit to that but I'd wager it's very much in play right now.

Both sides will blink, both will move, both will claim victory, brexit voters will say they are happy, remain voters will claim it's a disaster and a climbdown and the debate will go on and on and on.....

Of course it was always true - no matter how inconvenient - that:

"We will not see movement from the EU unless and until they are faced with the prospect of a viable walk-away option – and the political will to use it”

Interestingly, it seems Macron also realises this simple fact:

Nervy EU states wary of Brexit concessions by Michel Barnier | Brexit | The Guardian