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blueinsa said:
Any that means we leave.

Soft runny egg version will do for now and as @cibaman said earlier and backed up by @Mëtal Bikër a set period of time can then be used to firm up our leave position in the world which hopefully most folk can get their heads around and works for the majority of us.

If it doesnt work we have left, tried and the result respected and we can vote to rejoin either via a ref or by voting in a majority government on a rejoin ticket.

Democracy in action.
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Can't say fairer than that.

The whole "yeah but what's the point, we may as just remain" argument doesn't fly with many of us who respect the electorate.
 
west didsblue said:
You are correct of course and my original comment was tongue-in-cheek. It’s always better when the majority don’t feel they have been ignored otherwise we end up with something like the shit show we’re in now. Without huge numbers of people feeling worse off over many years thanks to austerity they would not be looking for a scapegoat to blame for their plight, something that chancers and charlatans like Johnson, Farage and their right wing media mates have exploited by blaming the EU.
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So help us compromisers get a soft brexit across the finishing line, then, if we've changed our minds again, and leave doesn't work out, campaign to rejoin and I for one will not stand in your way. Just honour my original vote, please. That's all I ask. We've had 3 years of this bullshit. A leave/rejoin would take half that time, if the worst came to the worst.

But a no deal brexit, absolutely must not be the means of how we leave. Fuck Boris's "No deal" and fuck Farage's hypocrisy. Fair enough?
 
blueinsa said:
I think similar soft runny egg versions where voted for in the indicative votes but they all lost pathetically as remain MP's voted tactically together to fuck everything off along with the ERG of course.

UK I'm not arsed about tbh as the SNP who have spent the last 3 years bemoaning the break up of the UK will get back on their break the UK bike again.

The EU/Scottish border between themselves and England wont be an issue as they put forwards a trusted trader style solution with checks away from the border.

I'm also certain they will lay claim to our currency and the BoE again as well.

Its called the cake and eat it independence.
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Not actually true. The most “runny egg” version was Ken Clarke’s which only lost by three votes and was voted for by most Labour MPs. It was the Tories that voted against.
https://ig.ft.com/brexit-second-round-indicative-votes/
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
So help us compromisers get a soft brexit across the finishing line, then, if we've changed our minds again, and leave doesn't work out, campaign to rejoin and I for one will not stand in your way. Just honour my original vote, please. That's all I ask. We've had 3 years of this bullshit. A leave/rejoin would take half that time, if the worst came to the worst.

But a no deal brexit, absolutely must not be the means of how we leave. Fuck Boris's "No deal" and fuck Farage's hypocrisy. Fair enough?
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Fair enough. If I was an MP I’d have been pushing for that like many Labour MPs have been as shown in the indicative votes. But I’m not and my opinion means jack shit other than I now know never to vote Tory. Problem is there aren’t the numbers for that outcome thanks to the Brexit ultras and the Farage fear factor.
 
west didsblue said:
Fair enough. If I was an MP I’d have been pushing for that like many Labour MPs have been as shown in the indicative votes. But I’m not and my opinion means jack shit other than I now know never to vote Tory. Problem is there aren’t the numbers for that outcome thanks to the Brexit ultras and the Farage fear factor.
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I have...liked...one of your posts.


WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING!?!?!
 
Neville Kneville said:
They are also hoping less immigration from EU means more from other countries.

But my point was true & still stands: many of the real hard core leave voters, the ones who we are all 'scared of' if we cancel Brexit, see immigration as the main point.

So.the pro leave voters on here who say a 'Norway style' Brexit will soothe the 'angry mob' are talking bollocks.
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Some of them yes
 
west didsblue said:
Fair enough. If I was an MP I’d have been pushing for that like many Labour MPs have been as shown in the indicative votes. But I’m not and my opinion means jack shit other than I now know never to vote Tory. Problem is there aren’t the numbers for that outcome thanks to the Brexit ultras and the Farage fear factor.
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You are going to be my new brexit friend i can see it.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
So help us compromisers get a soft brexit across the finishing line, then, if we've changed our minds again, and leave doesn't work out, campaign to rejoin and I for one will not stand in your way. Just honour my original vote, please. That's all I ask. We've had 3 years of this bullshit. A leave/rejoin would take half that time, if the worst came to the worst.

But a no deal brexit, absolutely must not be the means of how we leave. Fuck Boris's "No deal" and fuck Farage's hypocrisy. Fair enough?
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Well said
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
Well said
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