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It’s definitely insane.

In the words of GDM, the Daily Mail is a fucking abortion.
It just preys upon the tendency of a lot of folk to become more right wing/conservative and scared of the world around them as they age. It's basically a daily worst case scenario based report on everything. Even slight changes in the weather are presented as extreme events.
 
It just preys upon the tendency of a lot of folk to become more right wing/conservative and scared of the world around them as they age. It's basically a daily worst case scenario based report on everything. Even slight changes in the weather are presented as extreme events.
It’s a sad indictment that The Mail and The Sun are far and away the most popular newspapers in this country. It explains a lot.
 
It’s a sad indictment that The Mail and The Sun are far and away the most popular newspapers in this country. It explains a lot.
They are all shite, and as printed media becomes less popular the need for hysterical headlines becomes ever more so.
 
It's just a total coincidence that every major EU nation is predominantly Caucasian. It's just a total coincidence that the vast swathes of people drowning in the Mediterranean trying to get to Europe illegally because the legal route is all but closed off to them are predominantly dark skinned. Just coincidences . Nothing to see here. We're not racist. We're just looking after our own. Polish plumbers , come on in son, make yourself at home, don't worry if you haven't got a job lined up, we'll look after you. Black doctor from Africa? You can come in after you've jumped through a few of our hoops .

What can I say. Geography is a bitch.
 
So there you have it.... Cameron has spilled the beans on the arch megalomaniac Boris The Bell End. He was never a Brexiteer, but just a power-crazed politician who was seeing which way the Brexit wind was blowing, in order to enhance his mission to become 'King of the World'.

You couldn't make this shit up.

Also, I'm STILL waiting for just ONE Brexiteer to give me a compelling argument for leaving the EU. Challenge issued ladies & gents.

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Vegans can have the side salad.
 
The idea that all brexit arguments are based upon tabloid headlines is just intellectually lazy.

Sure. But looking at it from the EU perspective and with the narrow victory of leave in mind, you'd deffinatly assign significant blame to the likes of the mail and the Sun for conciously having driven a large portion of the UK public against the EU trough sheer lies. This is enforced by the fact that when asked for their reasons to want to leave a portion of leave voters cited the alarm contained withing bogus news story's of these sources.
 
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It's a sad fact that many who voted leave did so for racist reasons and I say this as an unashamed leave voter myself. They just did.

The irony though in my opinion is that , again in my opinion, it is the EU itself that is a racist endeavour, borne out of a white European sense of superiority over the rest of the world.

Broken down into its simplest form European immigration policy is one of "if you look like us and speak like us you can settle in any of our towns and cities without too many questions being asked. If you have a darker hue you'll have to jump through a few hoops and the process could take a while. And if out of desperation you try and jump the queue we will leave you to drown on the shores of the mediterranean. We will also throw our massive GM food surplus in the bin before we open our markets to organic African farmers"

One of the better educated people I work with voted remain , in part, because as he so stupidly put it "at least with the EU the immigrants are white"

The answer is to open our doors to immigrants regardless of what they look like based on need and circumstances.

I'm not naive enough to think we'll get this with a Tory govt, or probably a new labour govt either, but out of the EU, in a few years we might get it with a real labour govt .

I live in hope if not in expectation
Then the person that you work with is a clear racist - whilst, IMO, the vast majority of Leavers are not. It is just a simple truth that there will some racists that will have voted for Remain and some for Leave.

But also, as I have pointed out several times, the EU policies are inherently and intentionally discriminatory.

Shocked that this not highlighted more often.
 
Absolutely nothing to do with May giving Cressida Dick an honour last Thursday ... absolutely nothing to see here .... nothing at all ...... move along now
to the next opportunity for disinformation..... the real question for today is exactly what our Brexit Secretary, Stephen Barclay was doing in Poland yesterday?

Extension veto from Boris' chums?
 
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to the next opportunity for disinformation..... the real question for today is exactly what our Brexit Secretary, Stephen Barclay was doing in Poland yesterday?

Extension veto from Boris' chums?


No. It is not in their interests to veto so they won’t veto.
 
Then the person that you work with is a clear racist - whilst, IMO, the vast majority of Leavers are not. It is just a simple truth that there will some racists that will have voted for Remain and some for Leave.

But also, as I have pointed out several times, the EU policies are inherently and intentionally discriminatory.

Shocked that this not highlighted more often.
I'm shocked if you think most leavers are against the EU because it keeps non-white people out.
 
We could be offering to make it worth their while - they could just say they are supporting what Macron wants - EU unanimity is just a myth anyway.

We have nothing to offer that would make it worth their while. Poland has more to gain from keeping EU unanimity then they do from breaking it. At some point in the future Poland, like Ireland, may need the support of the other 26 nations so it’s interests are best served through solidarity rather than selling out to a non EU country like the U.K.

Poland’s main concern is the treatment of its citizens living in the U.K. post Brexit and on that our Home Office has not covered itself in glory. The Italian Parliament has already raised the issue about ensuring its citizens are not subject to a ‘Windrush’ scandal.
 
I'm shocked if you think most leavers are against the EU because it keeps non-white people out.

It’s a part of the tactic to reverse reality to fit their argument. Time and time again I’ve heard that the EU’s FoM allows people from third world countries the chance to gain an Eastern European passport and thus travel to the UK to live and work.

It was part of Farage’s message against immigration when he stood in front of that billboard.

The EU’s policy isn’t racist in the slightest, in fact quite the opposite. Had the Single Market not included FoM, European countries still wouldn’t have open boarders to the rest of the world. The EU’s policy is a step in the direction of internationalism, not a bigoted policy.
 
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