I'm not one for hyperbole and vivid imaginations.You can’t still be confused about the U.K. never having lost any sovereignty surely?
Not only that, but you seem to be accepting that collapsing the British farm industry is a price worth paying to do deals with countries a long way away from us? (Not N Ireland though, they’ll have to accept EU and U.K. standards for their food so their farmers will be ok).
The only government in history to insist on a non-level playing field, for the other side. As the NFU put it:
“Despite manifesto commitments and frequent warm words from the government, it is disappointing that they did not take the opportunity to legislate that they will not allow the imports of food that would be illegal for our farmers to produce here. We have seen clearly in the past few days the strength of feeling among farmers, MPs and politicians on this issue and as the Bill now moves to the House of Lords we will continue our work to ensure British farming standards are not undercut by future trade deals.”
A majority of MPs voted against an amendment, new clause 2, requiring new international treaties on the import of agricultural and food products to comply with World Trade Organisation safety rules and the UK’s own standards. It was put forward by the chair of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee, Conservative MP Neil Parish, and was defeated after receiving the support of Twenty Two Conservative MPs.
The proposed amendment would have protected our environment and animal welfare standards in future trade deals. As Parish wrote an article for the Conservative Home website, “there is no point having world-leading standards in the UK if we do not expect trade partners to reciprocate.” This stance was supported by the British Veterinary Association, along with 26 signatories of a letter, including representatives of the National Farmers’ Union, RSPCA, Wildlife Trust, Friends of the Earth, Green Peace, Soil Association and WWF, sent to all MPs.
This letter proposed that “The Bill should ensure that agri-food imports are produced to at least equivalent environmental, animal welfare, and food safety standards as those required of producers in the UK… We have heard concerns that such an approach would prevent the UK achieving the maximum benefit from its decision to leave the EU. We believe the opposite is true.”
We now come to the crux of the issue. The government appears to have decided against incorporating these standards into law because, as former international trade secretary Liam Fox pointed out during his speech in parliament on the 13th:
“the US would walk were the proposals to become law in the United Kingdom, and it would be swiftly followed by others—the Australians, the New Zealanders and those involved in the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership would be unlikely to take kindly to it.”
So, we insist on red lines with the EU, but insist on none with the rest of the world, which is odd.
Either by the EU or the US.
Pick your poison. You make it sound more like the US wants to make love to us, so that can't be a bad thing, can it.
Exactly what I want, expect i'd prefer daddy US to have the majority of indulgence, with the EU getting barely a kiss.It’s going to more of a spit roast between the two of them.
You’ll probably enjoy it.
If that chlorinated chicken thing is allowed to happen it will be the beginning of the end for our food standards.
We won't know what we will be eating in restaurants, country of origin probably won't be labelled in supermarkets so we won't be able to pick and choose. What next...are they going to take the nutritional information off of food packaging as well?
Exactly what I want, expect i'd prefer daddy US to have the majority of indulgence, with the EU getting barely a kiss.
Yeah. Trouble is the EU is next door and you know what they say about long distance romances...they never last. But I can see the attraction of an authoritarian, KKK President given your ‘Daddy’ issues.
You know what they say about abusive relationships, also.Yeah. Trouble is the EU is next door and you know what they say about long distance romances...they never last. But I can see the attraction of an authoritarian, KKK President given your ‘Daddy’ issues.
And the lengths some are prepared to see the country fall so that it does fail...The sad thing is there’s guys on here who want their country to fAil and people to be worse off in a desperate attempt to say I told you so
Pathetic really
And there’s others who seem perfectly willing to accept that people will be worse off, just to achieve their ideological goals. Which is equally pathetic, really.The sad thing is there’s guys on here who want their country to fAil and people to be worse off in a desperate attempt to say I told you so
Pathetic really
Same answer as before - more votes for parties who were for revoking Brexit or having a second referendum. Fact.AHH the best of 3 game again.
EU elections and GE says you're wrong but you know this Vic.
As the government will own a majority of the car industry in a few short weeks why do you think they will move it abroad?Bring it on - assembling cars is boring anyway. I look forward to the days when reps cycle the M1 from Leeds to Hemel Hempstead to close a deal - people who live in Warrington walking into Manchester or Liverpool to work - and we can go back to seasonal eating - lots of turnip and potato in the winter and lots of lettuce and cucumber in summer. I expect Brexit will make us the healthiest 3rd World Country
The sad thing is there’s guys on here who want their country to fAil and people to be worse off in a desperate attempt to say I told you so
Pathetic really
More pathetic, because the original point isn’t actually true.And there’s others who seem perfectly willing to accept that people will be worse off, just to achieve their ideological goals. Which is equally pathetic, really.
Says the guy who posted a whole FT article unattributed.Speaking on behalf of the Ctrl, 'C' and 'V' keys on your keyboard - please give us a fucking rest and use some of those other last keys
As the government will own a majority of the car industry in a few short weeks why do you think they will move it abroad?
That worked well in the 1970s.As the government will own a majority of the car industry in a few short weeks why do you think they will move it abroad?
Or alternatively there are people who can see the alternate reality facing the UK even before the Covid issues - however please feel free to believe what you think - sunny uplands and all that. You'll still be parroting your nonsense when we are all sat in a field cooking a rat over an open fire before we retire to our rudimentary shelter to sleep. Even then you will be saying that was the "will of the people"
And they'll all be in debt to the British government to a huge amount. My point still stands.Hardly likely. Look who owns NISSAN and Vauxhall - the French Gvt. They will sell to the UK Govt? Doubt that. MINI is German owned - I am sure the Bavarians would like those jobs back home....................I'd suggest you do your homework on who owns what are just assembly plants in the UK.