Another new Brexit thread

[bluethrunthru]

Is this a bad news story?

Go on - tell me what nuggets of gold you have mined from it - should be piss funny this.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Matbe these poor folk will be enriched by picking fruit for a decent wage?

But they won't get a decent wage - its economically impossible to pay the wage you imply and sell to the supermarkets for a profit - the farmers will go bust, shut up shop or grow other crops where possible. What we will get is fruit from abroad and do you know what? That will have been picked by pickers from within the EU on the type of wage they were getting here.

 

[west didsblue]

Matbe these poor folk will be enriched by picking fruit for a decent wage?

Do you reckon everyone who will be worse off due to increased fruit and veg prices will be able to get a farm job to compensate? Really?

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

But they won't get a decent wage - its economically impossible to pay the wage you imply and sell to the supermarkets for a profit - the farmers will go bust, shut up shop or grow other crops where possible. What we will get is fruit from abroad and do you know what? That will have been picked by pickers from within the EU on the type of wage they were getting here.

You are correct of course - exactly the same reason it was too pricey to use the white folks to pick cotton.

 

[bluethrunthru]

You are correct of course - exactly the same reason it was too pricey to use the white folks to pick cotton.

Meanwhile you reverse engineer an argument to fit the original conclusion that you don't like the EU as an institution so create faux outrage at low paid workers from the EU - the unfortunate reality to fucks your argument is that

a/ Unlike those who picked cotton the continental fruit pickers came ( and went ) of their own free will and-
b/ The wage they earn is at least the living wage in the UK - something that has to be paid by law to UK workers in warehouses, shops, labouring - the list goes on.

At least be honest when constructing an argument.

 

[blueinsa]

But they won't get a decent wage - its economically impossible to pay the wage you imply and sell to the supermarkets for a profit - the farmers will go bust, shut up shop or grow other crops where possible. What we will get is fruit from abroad and do you know what? That will have been picked by pickers from within the EU on the type of wage they were getting here.

Higher wages where not an issue when Corbyn was promising them to everyone?

Hilarious to now see you and others almost advocating them though to suit your Brexit narratives.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Do you reckon everyone who will be worse off due to increased fruit and veg prices will be able to get a farm job to compensate? Really?

You only have to read that article to see the answer is no. The UK "pickers" are proving to be unproductive for the most part and - laughably - lack the requisite skills to do an "unskilled" job. Half jack it in after a short time anyway.

 

[Metal Biker]

Higher wages where not an issue when Corbyn was promising them to everyone?

Hilarious to now see you and others almost advocating them though to suit your Brexit narratives.

Ah yes, the £10 living wage.

'current living wage is not enough for people to live on!!! unless it's for picking fruit, in which case it's about right'

 

[blueinsa]

Ah yes, the £10 living wage.

'current living wage is not enough for people to live on!!! unless it's for picking fruit, in which case it's about right'

I must have missed the bit that excluded fruit pickers so as to keep prices down?

 

[Metal Biker]

I must have missed the bit that excluded fruit pickers so as to keep prices down?

If they don't like it... they should get a better job! ;)

 

[Vic]

Ah yes, the £10 living wage.

'current living wage is not enough for people to live on!!! unless it's for picking fruit, in which case it's about right'

Tory manifesto was for £10.50 within 5 years (since made conditional).

Still wouldn't be enough to get Brits in the fields at six in the morning.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Meanwhile you reverse engineer an argument to fit the original conclusion that you don't like the EU as an institution so create faux outrage at low paid workers from the EU - the unfortunate reality to fucks your argument is that

a/ Unlike those who picked cotton the continental fruit pickers came ( and went ) of their own free will and-
b/ The wage they earn is at least the living wage in the UK - something that has to be paid by law to UK workers in warehouses, shops, labouring - the list goes on.

At least be honest when constructing an argument.

I am being honest. This country has been built upon the backs of low paid East European labour for a couple of decades and is the real reason behind the increase in immigration during the Blair years. I don't pretend to have a solution - I enjoy paying £2 instead of £6 for a punnet of strawberries as much as anyone and won't be able to afford to pay a decent wage to have my arse wiped in old age either.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I am being honest. This country has been built upon the backs of low paid East European labour for a couple of decades and is the real reason behind the increase in immigration during the Blair years. I don't pretend to have a solution - I enjoy paying £2 instead of £6 for a punnet of strawberries as much as anyone and won't be able to afford to pay a decent wage to have my arse wiped in old age either.

It’ll be low paid Asian/African in the upcoming years on seasonal visas, which won’t be checked.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

It’ll be low paid Asian/African in the upcoming years on seasonal visas, which won’t be checked.

I suppose it's less racist at least - given that it's all free choice as @bluethrunthru says - much like the Irish choice to come over here in the 1800's.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Post about the USSR deleted when the poster realised! Lol.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I suppose it's less racist at least - given that it's all free choice as @bluethrunthru says - much like the Irish choice to come over here in the 1800's.

The actual nationalities will be dictated by the small print in the trade deals we negotiate moving forward.

 

[west didsblue]

The actual nationalities will be dictated by the small print in the trade deals we negotiate moving forward.

What about this brave new world of not differentiating between immigrants from any country in the world that the Brexiteers keep parping on about? Oh yes, it’s never been like that and it never will - with or without the EU.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

What about this brave new world of not differentiating between immigrants from any country in the world that the Brexiteers keep parping on about? Oh yes, it’s never been like that and it never will - with or without the EU.

Yes, but I suppose it will at least be less skewed towards white Europeans.

 

[west didsblue]

Yes, but I suppose it will at least be less skewed towards white Europeans.

What have you got against white Europeans?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Yes, but I suppose it will at least be less skewed towards white Europeans.

Unless we secure a deal with the EU which allows their people access to work here for a certain timeframe as part of the deal.

Then we’ll go back to how it is now.