Another new Brexit thread

[Vic]

You’re making stuff up again you lying fucker!

I'm sorry if I misread anything but first you liked a post complaining that people just copy and paste stuff

Well it’s nice to see someone who doesn’t pretend to know everything.
Lot of know it all copy and paste merchants on here and it gets boring

then (next post) you copied and pasted the article about CANZUK. (If you had read any contrary view, why didn't you mention that others think the idea is rubbish?)

Then you claimed "The politician most behind it is Trudeau, from Canada" which just isn't true, is it?

I hate to alienate anyone truly with an open mind but you made plain what you think of most people on here:

"I can’t fucking stand remainers and I can’t fucking stand brexiteers... ....Two sets of clueless faux experts who couldn’t tell you more than the basics of what either side of the argument is all about".

 

[Deleted member 77198]

I'm sorry if I misread anything but first you liked a post complaining that people just copy and paste stuff

then (next post) you copied and pasted the article about CANZUK. (If you had read any contrary view, why didn't you mention that others think the idea is rubbish?)

Then you claimed "The politician most behind it is Trudeau, from Canada" which just isn't true, is it?

I hate to alienate anyone truly with an open mind but you made plain what you think of most people on here:

"I can’t fucking stand remainers and I can’t fucking stand brexiteers... ....Two sets of clueless faux experts who couldn’t tell you more than the basics of what either side of the argument is all about".

I said; “I’m very open to any criticism of CANZUK”

And you said, three times; “cutting and pasting "news" of an alliance to save the UK without bothering with any criticism of it,”;
“You won't read contrary views.”;
“He...hadn't read and doesn't want to read anything countering the idea.”

That’s not you misreading owt. You seem to want to make me look like a knob head by lying about me, sunshine.

Did it cross your mind I might have liked that fella’s post because of the first line in it, not the bit about copy and pasting?

I thought that’s what I read about Trudeau, it may well be false, but I said it once, I don’t keep posting it.

Well it’s true. I’ll maintain, anyone who’s on polar opposite ends of an argument usually don’t want to know and will never accept anything positive about the other end of the argument. It’s like a personality disorder.

I have an open mind because even after I’d voted Remain I’d never have called myself a Remainer because there’s no way I could be 100% right. Much in the same way I never call myself a Labour supporter or left wing, even though I’ve mostly voted for Labour in elections. I’ve done that because I’ve agreed more with a Labour manifesto than I have others, but I have never fully agreed with one and I’ve found policies of other parties to be spot on too. These aren’t football clubs so none of them are my side and I’m open to positives from any party, just like I am about leaving the EU.

I tend to steer clear of views of people who are fanatics or extremists on the [any] topic. Fanatics and extremists are usually blinkered fools. It’s impossible that either end of an argument are 100% right, but they think they are.

Have you (and others at your end) ever switched your computer on in the morning and said to yourselves; “right, let’s find something positive about Brexit, it’ll be good for my mood, oh and I’ll post it on Bluemoon because it’ll be good for that thread n’all”?

Because I reckon (I may be wrong) that that thought has never crossed your mind. In fact I’ll bet every thought you have on the topic is the complete opposite, you only look for negatives, and I’ve never seen your band of misery merchants ever agree with anything that’s offered up by the pro-Leavers neither, even if it’s reasonable to agree with or positive.

Was it you or one of the other misery merchants who laughed at someone for posting about a deal with Kenya, recently?

A deal with Kenya is a great idea. Britain buys £75,873,029 worth of tea and coffee from Kenya every year. Not a huge amount of money but actually more than we give Belize for sugar so it’d be good for us if we can get a deal to keep the prices as they are and good for them than we keep buying from them. So why’s that funny?

Plus the misery merchants on here all come across a bit suspect, like you’re all here on the WUM. Offering nothing but negativity, opposing anything that’s slightly pro-Leave or could possibly be positive post-Brexit, doom and gloom at every turn.

In a way I feel a bit sorry for you, it must be quite tiresome for you all to be living through such a negative experience. But then in other ways I think you sadistically revel in the misery of it.

You do know that you don’t have to do that anymore, don’t you? It’s not a month before the 2016 Referendum or the 2019 General Election where you very well might have felt you needed to put your views across in every post to sway people to vote how you wanted them to vote. That ship has now sailed, my friend. It’s gone. It’s not coming back no matter how much you want it to. But the answer to that isn’t to come on here and carry on with your fanaticism. That’s just proper sad, fella. Like a man still bitter about the girl who left him, still talking shit about her.

Now is the time for the whole country to pull together to find the best way to move forward. All of us should be looking for positives. There have been too many divisions in the last 6 years in this country, opened up by people just like you and your counterparts on the other side.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

your band of misery merchants ever agree with anything

Lol!

In a way I feel a bit sorry for you, it must be quite tiresome for you all to be living through such a negative experience. But then in other ways I think you sadistically revel in the misery of it.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I said; “I’m very open to any criticism of CANZUK”

And you said, three times; “cutting and pasting "news" of an alliance to save the UK without bothering with any criticism of it,”;
“You won't read contrary views.”;
“He...hadn't read and doesn't want to read anything countering the idea.”

That’s not you misreading owt. You seem to want to make me look like a knob head by lying about me, sunshine.

Did it cross your mind I might have liked that fella’s post because of the first line in it, not the bit about copy and pasting?

I thought that’s what I read about Trudeau, it may well be false, but I said it once, I don’t keep posting it.

Well it’s true. I’ll maintain, anyone who’s on polar opposite ends of an argument usually don’t want to know and will never accept anything positive about the other end of the argument. It’s like a personality disorder.

I have an open mind because even after I’d voted Remain I’d never have called myself a Remainer because there’s no way I could be 100% right. Much in the same way I never call myself a Labour supporter or left wing, even though I’ve mostly voted for Labour in elections. I’ve done that because I’ve agreed more with a Labour manifesto than I have others, but I have never fully agreed with one and I’ve found policies of other parties to be spot on too. These aren’t football clubs so none of them are my side and I’m open to positives from any party, just like I am about leaving the EU.

I tend to steer clear of views of people who are fanatics or extremists on the [any] topic. Fanatics and extremists are usually blinkered fools. It’s impossible that either end of an argument are 100% right, but they think they are.

Have you (and others at your end) ever switched your computer on in the morning and said to yourselves; “right, let’s find something positive about Brexit, it’ll be good for my mood, oh and I’ll post it on Bluemoon because it’ll be good for that thread n’all”?

Because I reckon (I may be wrong) that that thought has never crossed your mind. In fact I’ll bet every thought you have on the topic is the complete opposite, you only look for negatives, and I’ve never seen your band of misery merchants ever agree with anything that’s offered up by the pro-Leavers neither, even if it’s reasonable to agree with or positive.

Was it you or one of the other misery merchants who laughed at someone for posting about a deal with Kenya, recently?

A deal with Kenya is a great idea. Britain buys £75,873,029 worth of tea and coffee from Kenya every year. Not a huge amount of money but actually more than we give Belize for sugar so it’d be good for us if we can get a deal to keep the prices as they are and good for them than we keep buying from them. So why’s that funny?

Plus the misery merchants on here all come across a bit suspect, like you’re all here on the WUM. Offering nothing but negativity, opposing anything that’s slightly pro-Leave or could possibly be positive post-Brexit, doom and gloom at every turn.

In a way I feel a bit sorry for you, it must be quite tiresome for you all to be living through such a negative experience. But then in other ways I think you sadistically revel in the misery of it.

You do know that you don’t have to do that anymore, don’t you? It’s not a month before the 2016 Referendum or the 2019 General Election where you very well might have felt you needed to put your views across in every post to sway people to vote how you wanted them to vote. That ship has now sailed, my friend. It’s gone. It’s not coming back no matter how much you want it to. But the answer to that isn’t to come on here and carry on with your fanaticism. That’s just proper sad, fella. Like a man still bitter about the girl who left him, still talking shit about her.

Now is the time for the whole country to pull together to find the best way to move forward. All of us should be looking for positives. There have been too many divisions in the last 6 years in this country, opened up by people just like you and your counterparts on the other side.

I'm afraid for some people (they exist at both extremes of the 'debate') that they are so radicalised in their remain/leave views that they need to actually attack and rubbish anything that doesn't fit their own treasured opinion. Just ignore it - it's a form of mental illness.

 

[BobKowalski]

I said; “I’m very open to any criticism of CANZUK”

And you said, three times; “cutting and pasting "news" of an alliance to save the UK without bothering with any criticism of it,”;
“You won't read contrary views.”;
“He...hadn't read and doesn't want to read anything countering the idea.”

That’s not you misreading owt. You seem to want to make me look like a knob head by lying about me, sunshine.

Did it cross your mind I might have liked that fella’s post because of the first line in it, not the bit about copy and pasting?

I thought that’s what I read about Trudeau, it may well be false, but I said it once, I don’t keep posting it.

Well it’s true. I’ll maintain, anyone who’s on polar opposite ends of an argument usually don’t want to know and will never accept anything positive about the other end of the argument. It’s like a personality disorder.

I have an open mind because even after I’d voted Remain I’d never have called myself a Remainer because there’s no way I could be 100% right. Much in the same way I never call myself a Labour supporter or left wing, even though I’ve mostly voted for Labour in elections. I’ve done that because I’ve agreed more with a Labour manifesto than I have others, but I have never fully agreed with one and I’ve found policies of other parties to be spot on too. These aren’t football clubs so none of them are my side and I’m open to positives from any party, just like I am about leaving the EU.

I tend to steer clear of views of people who are fanatics or extremists on the [any] topic. Fanatics and extremists are usually blinkered fools. It’s impossible that either end of an argument are 100% right, but they think they are.

Have you (and others at your end) ever switched your computer on in the morning and said to yourselves; “right, let’s find something positive about Brexit, it’ll be good for my mood, oh and I’ll post it on Bluemoon because it’ll be good for that thread n’all”?

Because I reckon (I may be wrong) that that thought has never crossed your mind. In fact I’ll bet every thought you have on the topic is the complete opposite, you only look for negatives, and I’ve never seen your band of misery merchants ever agree with anything that’s offered up by the pro-Leavers neither, even if it’s reasonable to agree with or positive.

Was it you or one of the other misery merchants who laughed at someone for posting about a deal with Kenya, recently?

A deal with Kenya is a great idea. Britain buys £75,873,029 worth of tea and coffee from Kenya every year. Not a huge amount of money but actually more than we give Belize for sugar so it’d be good for us if we can get a deal to keep the prices as they are and good for them than we keep buying from them. So why’s that funny?

Plus the misery merchants on here all come across a bit suspect, like you’re all here on the WUM. Offering nothing but negativity, opposing anything that’s slightly pro-Leave or could possibly be positive post-Brexit, doom and gloom at every turn.

In a way I feel a bit sorry for you, it must be quite tiresome for you all to be living through such a negative experience. But then in other ways I think you sadistically revel in the misery of it.

You do know that you don’t have to do that anymore, don’t you? It’s not a month before the 2016 Referendum or the 2019 General Election where you very well might have felt you needed to put your views across in every post to sway people to vote how you wanted them to vote. That ship has now sailed, my friend. It’s gone. It’s not coming back no matter how much you want it to. But the answer to that isn’t to come on here and carry on with your fanaticism. That’s just proper sad, fella. Like a man still bitter about the girl who left him, still talking shit about her.

Now is the time for the whole country to pull together to find the best way to move forward. All of us should be looking for positives. There have been too many divisions in the last 6 years in this country, opened up by people just like you and your counterparts on the other side.

Personally I leave it to Brexiteers to post positive news about Brexit. It's their baby so by all means, let the positive news flow. My role is to take the piss. Unfortunately for Brexiteers the positive news tends to be ’oh look Kenya, yay!’ and fortunately for me there is a lot to take the piss out of like ’hey, isn't that new internal customs border within our own sovereign territory great?’.

No one is stopping people posting whatever they like about Brexit. You can post a positive article a day about Brexit. You will just need to do better than some post colonial fantasy like CANZUK. If you post a positive story that has real merit it will be discussed. If it's piddling bollockshite it's going to get dumped on. Reality is a harsh Mistress and all that.

 

[west didsblue]

It pisses you and Bob off?

Where’s the link?

 

[mat]

Everyday i see and read reports about the negative effects of Brexit.

Apart from a couple of speeches I've not seen any positives being promoted to the population about it.

As I've said before the vote is done. We all have to accept the result, yet all I see is just as much negativity as there was during the actual campaigns.

 

[west didsblue]

Everyday i see and read reports about the negative effects of Brexit.

Apart from a couple of speeches I've not seen any positives being promoted to the population about it.

As I've said before the vote is done. We all have to accept the result, yet all I see is just as much negativity as there was during the actual campaigns.

Agreed.
I was hoping someone would post some tangible positives describing how we’ll be better off.
Nothing so far other than the Brexit fans enjoying some schadenfreude.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Everyday i see and read reports about the negative effects of Brexit.

Apart from a couple of speeches I've not seen any positives being promoted to the population about it.

As I've said before the vote is done. We all have to accept the result, yet all I see is just as much negativity as there was during the actual campaigns.

I suppose it's because brexit has no positives and the negativity is largely an attempt to educate the stupid (majority) of the population that cynically used democracy to bring it about. This is all fine, but if anything the last four years have pretty much proved that calling people idiots and trashing their views doesn't work as a form of persuasion. Inevitably those involved with brexit wont have time, and those campaigning to bring it about now have no need to counter the negativity - they won / got what they wanted. It's rare to find a strongly pro or anti brexit view that is dispassionate and unbiased - most of these voices represent extreme voices or vested interests. The largely silent majority voiced their opinion in 2016, 2 GE's and an EU parliament election.

 

[mcfc1632]

I said; “I’m very open to any criticism of CANZUK”

And you said, three times; “cutting and pasting "news" of an alliance to save the UK without bothering with any criticism of it,”;
“You won't read contrary views.”;
“He...hadn't read and doesn't want to read anything countering the idea.”

That’s not you misreading owt. You seem to want to make me look like a knob head by lying about me, sunshine.

Did it cross your mind I might have liked that fella’s post because of the first line in it, not the bit about copy and pasting?

I thought that’s what I read about Trudeau, it may well be false, but I said it once, I don’t keep posting it.

Well it’s true. I’ll maintain, anyone who’s on polar opposite ends of an argument usually don’t want to know and will never accept anything positive about the other end of the argument. It’s like a personality disorder.

I have an open mind because even after I’d voted Remain I’d never have called myself a Remainer because there’s no way I could be 100% right. Much in the same way I never call myself a Labour supporter or left wing, even though I’ve mostly voted for Labour in elections. I’ve done that because I’ve agreed more with a Labour manifesto than I have others, but I have never fully agreed with one and I’ve found policies of other parties to be spot on too. These aren’t football clubs so none of them are my side and I’m open to positives from any party, just like I am about leaving the EU.

I tend to steer clear of views of people who are fanatics or extremists on the [any] topic. Fanatics and extremists are usually blinkered fools. It’s impossible that either end of an argument are 100% right, but they think they are.

Have you (and others at your end) ever switched your computer on in the morning and said to yourselves; “right, let’s find something positive about Brexit, it’ll be good for my mood, oh and I’ll post it on Bluemoon because it’ll be good for that thread n’all”?

Because I reckon (I may be wrong) that that thought has never crossed your mind. In fact I’ll bet every thought you have on the topic is the complete opposite, you only look for negatives, and I’ve never seen your band of misery merchants ever agree with anything that’s offered up by the pro-Leavers neither, even if it’s reasonable to agree with or positive.

Was it you or one of the other misery merchants who laughed at someone for posting about a deal with Kenya, recently?

A deal with Kenya is a great idea. Britain buys £75,873,029 worth of tea and coffee from Kenya every year. Not a huge amount of money but actually more than we give Belize for sugar so it’d be good for us if we can get a deal to keep the prices as they are and good for them than we keep buying from them. So why’s that funny?

Plus the misery merchants on here all come across a bit suspect, like you’re all here on the WUM. Offering nothing but negativity, opposing anything that’s slightly pro-Leave or could possibly be positive post-Brexit, doom and gloom at every turn.

In a way I feel a bit sorry for you, it must be quite tiresome for you all to be living through such a negative experience. But then in other ways I think you sadistically revel in the misery of it.

You do know that you don’t have to do that anymore, don’t you? It’s not a month before the 2016 Referendum or the 2019 General Election where you very well might have felt you needed to put your views across in every post to sway people to vote how you wanted them to vote. That ship has now sailed, my friend. It’s gone. It’s not coming back no matter how much you want it to. But the answer to that isn’t to come on here and carry on with your fanaticism. That’s just proper sad, fella. Like a man still bitter about the girl who left him, still talking shit about her.

Now is the time for the whole country to pull together to find the best way to move forward. All of us should be looking for positives. There have been too many divisions in the last 6 years in this country, opened up by people just like you and your counterparts on the other side.

Well said again - that was obviously in reply to one of those that I have put on ignore.

I fully accept that the regular posters, including myself, in this thread are proper sad cunts - but I also point out that I did forecast:

"It will require a reset from the minds of Remainers to have to interact with someone that is either not 'part of their pack' - or an obvious 'target for attack'

You will find that there a few Remainers that will welcome the introduction of balance and objectivity - certainly, I think, most Leavers would welcome that.

But I would predict that the more frequent/dominant Remainers will just settle for the default option of attacking whatever you post to drive you off the thread.

Interruptions of the echo chamber are generally not tolerated

They will likely not accept that you are 'neutral' - they will likely start with a need to label you to be able to deal with you. Most seem not able to adapt their flow of hate for all things Brexit and deal with any level of balance or neutral views."​

 

[bluethrunthru]

Ha ha ha ha - even Liz fucking Truss can see it.....

 

[west didsblue]

I suppose it's because brexit has no positives and the negativity is largely an attempt to educate the stupid (majority) of the population that cynically used democracy to bring it about. This is all fine, but if anything the last four years have pretty much proved that calling people idiots and trashing their views doesn't work as a form of persuasion. Inevitably those involved with brexit wont have time, and those campaigning to bring it about now have no need to counter the negativity - they won / got what they wanted. It's rare to find a strongly pro or anti brexit view that is dispassionate and unbiased - most of these voices represent extreme voices or vested interests. The largely silent majority voiced their opinion in 2016, 2 GE's and an EU parliament election.

You and 1632 should start a thread to waffle on about Remainers and leave this one for those that want to discuss leaving the EU.

 

[mcfc1632]

Lol!

Good effort - that 'sorta works' - but I see the most active Remainers more addicted to inflicting pain and doom and gloom on others - rather on themselves.

I see the 3 key Remain posters more in the role of 3 of the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse (minus death)………...….

Unless I choose to see ignored content, I don't see their posts anymore - but they used to conjure up images more like the green horseman - something like this is how I think they will look:

 

[west didsblue]

Ha ha ha ha - even Liz fucking Truss can see it.....

We’re supposed to be focusing on Brexit positives today.

We all know it’s shit (even Cheese has admitted there’s no positives) but there must be one benefit that makes it all worthwhile.

Anyone??

 

[BobKowalski]

Good effort - that 'sorta works' - but I see the mot popular Remainers more addicted to inflicting pain and doom and gloom on others - rather on themselves.

I see the 3 key Remain posters more in the role of 3 of the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse (minus death)………...….

I don't see their posts anymore - but they used to conjure up images more like the green horseman - something like this is how I think they will look:

Is it just me or is this ’remainer’ obsession starting to come across as really fucked up weird?

 

[Vic]

Everyday i see and read reports about the negative effects of Brexit...

There's a reason for that.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

You and 1632 should start a thread to waffle on about Remainers and leave this one for those that want to discuss leaving the EU.

Maybe you should not be so precious and entitled about who can post what? It seems there is a certain type on here that feels the need to discourage and shut down anything that doesn't fit their own view. I respectfully suggest you either report posts that breach the CoC, become a mod, or perhaps just stop it.

 

[joe123]

We’re supposed to be focusing on Brexit positives today.

We all know it’s shit (even Cheese has admitted there’s no positives) but there must be one benefit that makes it all worthwhile.

Anyone??

I firmly believe it will be a shambles, or at very best we'll end up with not much difference other than a less prosperous economy, but if I was to talk about positives, it might be the case that we won't know until we're properly out. And the Brexiteers won't reveal what they see these upsides are for fear of compromising negotiations... However, I find it very odd that people cannot point to demonstrable benefits other than having more control of immigration, and instead eulogise about nebulous ideas like 'being free from the EU'. If people are happy with that, then fair play to them, but life is not going to be any better for them in any tangible way that I can see, or is being suggested, which is a pretty sorry state of affairs.

 

[west didsblue]

Maybe you should not be so precious and entitled about who can post what? It seems there is a certain type on here that feels the need to discourage and shut down anything that doesn't fit their own view. I respectfully suggest you either report posts that breach the CoC, become a mod, or perhaps just stop it.

Who’s rattled your cage?
It was only a suggestion.

 

[west didsblue]

Is it just me or is this ’remainer’ obsession starting to come across as really fucked up weird?

Not just you.