Another new Brexit thread

[Ban-jani]

Already sold ..... and anyway bringing things in house was what Labour proposed.... but hey ,, they told you Corbyn was the problem and you fell for it.

In house doesn’t necessarily mean nationalisation based on ideological commitments, but hey ho you can’t grasp a basic opinion.

My point is we need to maintain a large proportion of at least British companies in the frame.

 

[Vic]

In house doesn’t necessarily mean nationalisation based on ideological commitments, but hey ho you can’t grasp a basic opinion.

My point is we need to maintain a large proportion of at least British companies in the frame.

Is there a five-year plan for that?

 

[Ban-jani]

Is there a five-year plan for that?

I’d have sorted it.

We’d still be in the EU if I was PM, herd immunity gained, City still champions, Scousers banned from leaving Merseyside and Michelle Keegan barred from wearing clothes.

 

[mcfc1632]

Agree - however it will only be obvious to those that have an unbiased view. And of course it will be subject to the usual spin and denial from the head bangers who will look the other way and find some other bollocks to come out with as a counter argument. A central theme of populist bollocks politics is to always have an argument, even if your point is totally baseless it doesn't matter, just have an alternative talking point and never back down, even in the face of clear and overwhelming evidence that you are wrong you just double down and crack on.

Is that really a post from @Gaudion M in which he suggested that he his someone with an 'unbiased view'

Fuck me - that is a new PB in the lack of self-awareness

 

[mcfc1632]

I'll let you know once you've answered @Saddleworth2 question to you on pg 3873.

That is not how things (at least should) work

At the time I was focussing exposing a poster for misrepresentation and then the JO'B question was being used as distraction

I said that I would be happy to discuss that when the misrepresentation was admitted - of course it was not

Anyway - best not to go there

I note that you post about a lack of real substance but when 4 questions of substance were put to you - you hide behind some nonsense. Hmmmm

 

[Vic]

That is not how things (at least should) work

At the time I was focussing exposing a poster for misrepresentation and then the JO'B question was being used as distraction

I said that I would be happy to discuss that when the misrepresentation was admitted - of course it was not

Anyway - best not to go there

I note that you post about a lack of real substance but when 4 questions of substance were put to you - you hide behind some nonsense. Hmmmm

For someone who's never been willing to discuss the impact of Brexit on fishing or farming, you've got a cheek.

 

[bluethrunthru]

They come here because we are in the EU and we have to leave - we have left and still they come - so that lie is now being nailed too

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53685918

 

[Vic]

They come here because we are in the EU and we have to leave - we have left and still they come - so that lie is now being nailed too

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53685918

Or they always wanted to come here (because of relatives here already) but think it will be harder when there are more customs checks.

Or they've heard about the points system and that's killed off any hope of getting here legitimately.

(I'm just guessing why it's happening now and not before. I mean it's a third the distance from Africa to Lampedusa).

It's not because they think Brexit will make the UK a better place to live and they will be more welcome.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Or they always wanted to come here (because of relatives here already) but think it will be harder when there are more customs checks.

Or they've heard about the points system and that's killed off any hope of getting here legitimately.

(I'm just guessing why it's happening now and not before. I mean it's a third the distance from Africa to Lampedusa).

It's not because they think Brexit will make the UK a better place to live and they will be more welcome.

The brexitites will get a right rage on when they realise that brexit has zero influence on illegal immigration. Some of them may even twig that they were sold a bunch of lies.

 

[BobKowalski]

Anyone else enjoying the fact we are spending £355 million to try and ensure we can still trade freely within our own sovereign territory? And this only covers business-to-business transactions. We still don’t know what the plan is for GB business-NI consumer transactions ie. the bulk of non-food online shopping.

‘UK govt to spend an initial £355m to help NI businesses do the customs paperwork required as a result of the Brexit deal. The Trader Support Service will see the govt act as a customs agent for NI importers’

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-53685266

 

[west didsblue]

Anyone else enjoying the fact we are spending £355 million to try and ensure we can still trade freely within our own sovereign territory? And this only covers business-to-business transactions. We still don’t know what the plan is for GB business-NI consumer transactions ie. the bulk of non-food online shopping.

‘UK govt to spend an initial £355m to help NI businesses do the customs paperwork required as a result of the Brexit deal. The Trader Support Service will see the govt act as a customs agent for NI importers’

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-53685266

I suppose saying that the £350m saving that was going to the NHS wouldn’t have had quite the same ring to it on the bus if it said that the savings were to cover the additional costs of internal trading within the UK.

 

[Vic]

Anyone else enjoying the fact we are spending £355 million to try and ensure we can still trade freely within our own sovereign territory? And this only covers business-to-business transactions. We still don’t know what the plan is for GB business-NI consumer transactions ie. the bulk of non-food online shopping.

‘UK govt to spend an initial £355m to help NI businesses do the customs paperwork required as a result of the Brexit deal. The Trader Support Service will see the govt act as a customs agent for NI importers’

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-53685266

It's good news in the Express!

Gove said, "Our new free-to-use Trader Support Service will provide vital support and guidance to traders".

Free-to-use.... it's cost you and me £5.50 each. I'm not enjoying that.

 

[Vic]

I suppose saying that the £350m saving that was going to the NHS wouldn’t have had quite the same ring to it on the bus if it said that the savings were to cover the additional costs of internal trading within the UK.

Be fair. That lie was £350m a week.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Anyone else enjoying the fact we are spending £355 million to try and ensure we can still trade freely within our own sovereign territory? And this only covers business-to-business transactions. We still don’t know what the plan is for GB business-NI consumer transactions ie. the bulk of non-food online shopping.

‘UK govt to spend an initial £355m to help NI businesses do the customs paperwork required as a result of the Brexit deal. The Trader Support Service will see the govt act as a customs agent for NI importers’

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-53685266

9/9/19 - we must come out on Oct 31st



8/11/19 ( spoiler alert - we were still in the EU ) - why does anyone believe anything he says?

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

The brexitites will get a right rage on when they realise that brexit has zero influence on illegal immigration. Some of them may even twig that they were sold a bunch of lies.

I'm not sure you understand. No rules will ever stop illegal immigration, because by definition (it's illegal) it's outside of any legislation whether we like it or not. Also, surely brexit was always about increasing opportunities for immigration? I speak from first hand experience as I have a non EU imported wife which was probably harder to import than a suitcase of heroin.

 

[Vic]

I'm not sure you understand. No rules will ever stop illegal immigration, because by definition (it's illegal) it's outside of any legislation whether we like it or not. Also, surely brexit was always about increasing opportunities for immigration? I speak from first hand experience as I have a non EU imported wife which was probably harder to import than a suitcase of heroin.

From Thighland?

(Sorry)

 

[bluethrunthru]

Be fair. That lie was £350m a week.

Similarly they had to big up Col. Sir Tom Moore's efforts as being collecting for the NHS because had people known it was going to end up lining Andrew Mills pockets for dodgy PPE I doubt to much would have been raised and poor old Tom would probably have given up disillusioned but you know......just Tories......

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

I suppose saying that the £350m saving that was going to the NHS wouldn’t have had quite the same ring to it on the bus if it said that the savings were to cover the additional costs of internal trading within the UK.

On another forum Im on... one brexiteer denied that the £350 million a week was ever written on the side of the bus. madness

 

[crazyg]

On another forum Im on... one brexiteer denied that the £350 million a week was ever written on the side of the bus. madness

This one?
https://www.bing.com/images/search?...CC038B5A99FF6CE03&selectedIndex=2&FORM=IRPRST

 

[mcfc1632]

Anyway - let's see if we can get the thread back to the topic of Brexit:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-and-japan-close-in-on-post-brexit-trade-deal-100443088.html

That seems a positive development