Antoine Semenyo | Considering triggering the £65m release (p13)

[oldius]

It come down to simple things
Do we need that type of player?
The answer is yes and he has proved how good he is in the prem.

As for Liverpool, they bought two average fullbacks, overplayed for a forward and bought a player not suited to their system (whatever that now is)

Nobody was saying this at the time.
In fact, fans here were apoplectic at them getting Wirtz and why on earth were they able to buy two full-backs when we weren't buying one. Then we had the Isak complaints.
There are no guarantees, and joining a club with significantly higher expectations and media attention is a different ballgame.

 

[Dax777]

It come down to simple things
Do we need that type of player?
The answer is yes and he has proved how good he is in the prem.

As for Liverpool, they bought two average fullbacks, overplayed for a forward and bought a player not suited to their system (whatever that now is)

This wasn't the prevailing view in the summer.

They wre signing the best young attacking prospect in world football, the 2nd best striker in the league... 2 full backs a majority of our fans considered superior to the ones we had and 5jey were already ahead as returning champions before any of those purchases.

I think.the overarching conclusion one can reach is that prospects are not a sure thing, no matter how good they looked playing in their previous team.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

He's hardly been prolific but maybe on the up. I just get the feeling this is a Wilfred Bony type signing.

Nah he's far more proven than Bony ever was, and he's head and shoulders a better player than any of our current wingers.

I'm not classing Cherki as a winger in that statement.

 

[waspish]

He's hardly been prolific but maybe on the up. I just get the feeling this is a Wilfred Bony type signing.

How many goals and assists does he have last 3 seasons?

 

[bell_mcfc]

Not remotely a shot at either of you but I miss when this club was mainly followed by actual supporters vs. so called fans.

I agree with this although it comes with the success. I don’t mind new fans at all I just miss sane takes and people being well minded.

It’s not normal to have the success Pep has had, yet certain people expect him to do even better.

 

[bell_mcfc]

Nah he's far more proven than Bony ever was, and he's head and shoulders a better player than any of our current wingers.

I'm not classing Cherki as a winger in that statement.

I feel like the comparison to Bony is way off.

 

[TonyBookEnd]

How many goals and assists does he have last 3 seasons?

35 in 82. I think. But playing for a Bournemouth side where the opposition might afford him more space than he would get for us. How will he adjust mentally? He's 25 should be in his prime.
He's hardly a can't miss prospect

But I'm happy to be proven wrong and will back him to the hilt if he joins

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

If it's true, I expect Bobb will be loaned out in January and then either he or Savinho will leave in the summer. Already struggling to give Marmoush enough minutes to get a run of form going, so we definitely won't add another forward without letting one go.

Sav will force a Jan move….needs to be in the shop window for a seat on the bench in the WC

 

[bell_mcfc]

Sav will force a Jan move….needs to be in the shop window for a seat on the bench in the WC

As much as I could say I hope so he’s actually getting minutes at the moment.

Bringing in another winger, but being without Marmoush in Jan makes me think we could keep him. Unless we need to offload him for ffp.

 

[waspish]

35 in 82. I think. But playing for a Bournemouth side where the opposition might afford him more space than he would get for us. How will he adjust mentally? He's 25 should be in his prime.
He's hardly a can't miss prospect

But I'm happy to be proven wrong and will back him to the hilt if he joins

Pretty decent that the only doubt with any player is how they play with the pressure of having to perform win every game

 

[bell_mcfc]

Pretty decent that the only doubt with any player is how they play with the pressure of having to perform win every game

Playing under pressure but also against the low block. But it’s a risk we have to take.

 

[waspish]

Playing under pressure but also against the low block. But it’s a risk we have to take.

Yep we need him just to give us options even to rest Doku occasionally

 

[dubblue]

This doesn’t make much sense at all. Have they changed their minds this quickly on Marmoush,Savinho and Bobb?…most fans knew they were not the required standard but why not do it in the summer. Bizarre stuff.

 

[bell_mcfc]

This doesn’t make much sense at all. Have they changed their minds this quickly on Marmoush,Savinho and Bobb?…most fans knew they were not the required standard but why not do it in the summer. Bizarre stuff.

Marmoush isn’t a winger. Savio and Bobb aren’t hitting the ground running.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Marmoush play as a 10 and Foden on the right. It’s like fitting Alvarez back into the team.


Semenyo can rotate with Doku but also play on the right if needed.

 

[oldius]

Yep we need him just to give us options even to rest Doku occasionally

The Doku that so many claimed would never be good enough only a few months ago.
Without time, even Rodri would have failed, not to mention countless others.
I cannot grasp the seeming inability of some fans to get behind players and allow them to develop.
You cannot develop without minutes on the pitch.
Otherwise, say goodbye to any young players joining the team and sign all the finished articles you wish. I cannot think of anything more boring than that myself.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

I find it so much quicker to read this thread now that I have so many of the clowns on ignore.

 

[cleavers]

I feel like the comparison to Bony is way off.

Of course it is, and in any case he got injured almost right away.

 

[g180aj]

Same people said that Liverpool had a 10/10 summer window and we'd never be able to keep up with them.

Baring missing out on a centre back they would have had a great summer if they played a 442 Diamond

 

[domalino]

This wasn't the prevailing view in the summer.

They wre signing the best young attacking prospect in world football, the 2nd best striker in the league... 2 full backs a majority of our fans considered superior to the ones we had and 5jey were already ahead as returning champions before any of those purchases.

I think.the overarching conclusion one can reach is that prospects are not a sure thing, no matter how good they looked playing in their previous team.

FWIW I suspect all of Liverpool's summer transfers will come good. They're all fantastic players, and whether their current issues are down to adding too many players too quickly, the Klopp era players checking out, Slot not being good enough, Jota's death, standard post win hangover...whatever it is, Isak, Frimpong, Wirtz, Ekitike are all quality. Kerkez could have been a flash in the pan at Bournemouth, but he's also 22 so loads of time to come good.

I also think they were really unlucky the CB they bought did his ACL first game...could have been a very different season if he'd been fit and playing instead of Konate.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

As much as I could say I hope so he’s actually getting minutes at the moment.

Bringing in another winger, but being without Marmoush in Jan makes me think we could keep him. Unless we need to offload him for ffp.

He wouldn't be one we'd sell for ffp.
We paid £30m for him less than 2 seasons ago