Any Regrets...?

flook said:
I think your grandfather, and everyone else's grandfather, fought in a war to ensure we had the right to vote. I exercise my right by abstaining from partaking in a flawed system which returns immoral liars of whatever colour whose driving incentive is their own progress, and the provision of a better country for the masses is a secondary, at best, aim.

Also, your initial post, heartfelt though it was, and reflective of any sane persons desires, is something of an unobtainable utopia I'm afraid. I can't think of a single country (though I'm no expert and would be happy to be corrected) which meets half the aims in your third paragraph for half their population.

Oh and in answer to the OP, no I don't regret my decision not to vote.
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Absolutely spot on in everything you’ve said.
 
Politicians have been self serving cunts for a while now and it’s peaked with this current PM.

I regret bothering to vote for anyone for many years.
 
Rascal said:
I regret voting for Labour when Blair first became PM.

I remember the excitement of the election, the night when I finally thought i was going to be see the end of Tory rule. I had grown up from the age of 13 with the misery of Tory rule, i finally had a chance to vote to end it or so I thought, but in my naivety i had not realised how far neo-liberalism had permeated into UK society, I had not realised that the post WW2 consensus was finished. Blair did OK but was no Socialist, he just carried on the work of the Tories.

Maybe if Labour hadn't won that election, the party would have got a new Socialist leader and my adult life would not have been so politically miserable and we would not have ended up with the reactionary bunch of cunts we have today.

All i have ever wanted is to live in a country that is peaceful, fair and decent. A country where every one regardless of who they are or where they are from gets decent schooling, is looked after by a well funded NHS, are treated well when ill fortune strikes, are safe to walk the streets, can afford to keep warm and eat a proper meal. Now it seems that is a pipe dream as we live in an increasingly authoritarian state, that is run in the interests of those with most. The I am alright Jack yuppie mindset of the 80s is the norm, hatred of difference is commonplace, culture wars are fought and woke is the new PC gone mad. Demonisation is everywhere, decency is frowned upon, doing good is belittled. As was once said "there is no such thing as society" has become true, we hate now before love, we are encouraged to spy on our neighbours where once we borrowed a cup of sugar. Showing you care is virtue signalling, I never imagined living in a country where having virtues would mean you would be ridiculed.

Our country is now a moral cesspit, lying is excused, philandering is fine, tax dodging is encouraged, our country is now unethical and immoral. Our once great democracy is a shambles, influence can be bought, corruption is rife and nepotism, cronyism, old school tie networks, sexism and racism are still attached to power.

We were once a great country, Blair on coming to power called us a young country, sadly Blair was right, we stayed young, we never grew up and if anything we regressed.

How I wish I had never voted for you Mr Blair, you had the power to make us a good country and failed so badly we now have this shit show of braggarts, charlatans, lunatics, liars and thieves taking our country further down the toilet and now we are a laughing stock.
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we all want what you want Russ. sadly our country is fucked and we are all to blame . every PM every party every parent every man woman and child.

criminal to let it come to this .
 
Magicpole said:
Great post. Blair and Superbroon had a chance to make things better, but after sucking Murdoch’s withered cock to win, they were hogtied into focusing on deregulation of the City of London markets. That went well. They fucked everybody up, we’re bailed out by the people, then went back to be the greedy selfish vermin they are.
I remember the 80’s, was a lad but involved. Was a member of the Labour Party, left wing obviously, and tried and failed in our constituency to oust a right wing sitting labour MP. He was an utter cut, but an operator and one of our group made the mistake of telling his uncle of our plans and he told the MP and his right wing bellends. We turned up for the vote and found 16 of us couldn’t vote, as they claimed an issue with our memberships. Total bullshit, we lost by 9 votes to get shot of him.
As the years went by, Labour became Red Tories and have stayed there until Corbyn came along and look at how the establishment fucked him with bullshit that too many bought, the stupid cunts. I had never been a supporter of independence l, as I saw our fight as to back working class people all over these islands. That ran out of road as no matter how bad those Tories got, England returned them. I am proud of the fact we have never returned a majority of Tory scum for over 70 years.

I am just hoping we can get Indy, all the demographics of the younger voters support it, with only middle class and loyalists voting against it due to their love of the monarchy and no matter how bad things get, they don’t give a fuck.
I have always said I am not confident we will do it as once the Project Fear is ramped up many wobble. I hope if we do it, we can show you can have a fairer country and by that people south of Hadrian’s will see it’s all been lies that we cannot do things differently and get off their fucking knees and demand the same.

You may call me a dreamer, but I’m not the only one.
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Thanks Mr Pole

The UK is now run by and for the interests of Tory England. I find it incredibly frustrating that my city, a virtually Tory free zone for an eternity has to accept the rule of the Little Englander cohort. Yes I know that is democracy and under the FPTP system we use that happens. But if I feel aggrieved and I live in England I cannot imagine how yourself and your countrymen feel, same with the Welsh and also the Northern Irish to a degree.

Without getting into the whole Indy debate, if it does happen I wish you well and please can I move to a Socialist Scotland after you get rid of the awful Tartan Tory SNP. Mhairi (sp) is brilliant btw and I would love her to be PM of the UK, she is a superstar,

Over the last few years I have become more and more interested in the concept of localism, that is democracy on a local level. That would mean of course the UK if it stayed together, it becoming a federalised nation. Regions and nations should have more power and central Government less. We currently have one of the most centralised government structures in the world and that means many feel voiceless and ignored. I see no reason why my City should not have the power to govern itself, raise taxes and spend those taxes on my cities priorities rather than have its funding cut buy an overarching central government that wants to micro manage every part of our lives and impose Tory values and economic beliefs on people who do not believe in them.

In Manchester through the work I do I have seen the impact of Tory cuts on my city, our needs are very different to Tory voting Maidenhead, just as Glasgow's needs are very different to Guildford. As a result we need a huge overall in how our democracy works, it has to work for the people and it has to work on a local level. For instance the people of Guildford may feel there services are fine and vote to pay less tax, the people of Glasgow may want to vote for more tax. If that was a local power to decide then local peoples views would be met and that would lead to less disaffection with the political class. Of course there would still be national taxes that would be used for national spending, but local taxation could be used to benefit the areas where those people felt spending was most needed.

What I do know is that as a United Kingdom our political system is broken, our trust in politicians is at an all time low and we need major changes. If change does not happen, I fear for democracy as we already have an increasingly authoritarian Government implementing laws that will affect us all and they appear to do it with no concern about the majority of people just those who vote Tory. The Tories never used to be like that either, but one nation Toryism is dead and buried and reactionary National Conservatism is now in the ascendancy.
 
I regret I was born, to be honest.

I have seen this country go down, and down and down, with Russian doll Prime Ministers each a little smaller and worse than the last. We are monumentally fucked, and short of an actual revolution (which I think is highly unlikely) I see no hope of improvement.

My Dad (and millions like him) might as well have stayed at home during 1939-45, because we've now got roughly what we'd have got if Adolf had won, tin-pot fascists running the country with the support of flag-waving troglodytes who hate anyone who isn't them, and despise progress, intellectualism, and the modern world.
 
BrianW said:
I regret I was born, to be honest.

I have seen this country go down, and down and down, with Russian doll Prime Ministers each a little smaller and worse than the last. We are monumentally fucked, and short of an actual revolution (which I think is highly unlikely) I see no hope of improvement.

My Dad (and millions like him) might as well have stayed at home during 1939-45, because we've now got roughly what we'd have got if Adolf had won, tin-pot fascists running the country with the support of flag-waving troglodytes who hate anyone who isn't them, and despise progress, intellectualism, and the modern world.
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Stay strong mate. The young always inherit the earth. They aren't buying this shit.

All it will take is one charismatic leader to sweep these charlatans to the dustbin bin and history will judge them for the fraudsters they are.
 
BrianW said:
I regret I was born, to be honest.

I have seen this country go down, and down and down, with Russian doll Prime Ministers each a little smaller and worse than the last. We are monumentally fucked, and short of an actual revolution (which I think is highly unlikely) I see no hope of improvement.

My Dad (and millions like him) might as well have stayed at home during 1939-45, because we've now got roughly what we'd have got if Adolf had won, tin-pot fascists running the country with the support of flag-waving troglodytes who hate anyone who isn't them, and despise progress, intellectualism, and the modern world.
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As much as the younger generations get a bad rep, they come to view the media with fresh eyes and understanding.

They have a deep distrust of mainstream media which will gradually kill away the Tory Propaganda machine. I'm genuinely mortified at the levels of sheer stupidity, ignorance and selective bias I see from grown men and women in their 40s and 50s these days. They sacrifice their morals to weigh down their pockets.
 
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