Apprentice Union?

[SWP's back]

The rich invest in? Not the working man?

Now that is big news to me.

 

[mackenzie]

The rich invest in? Not the working man?

Now that is big news to me.

And then take it away. As in funding for the nursing home we invariably end up in.

It's a travesty. Let the working man slave until he is 70, big him up to believe he is 'investing' and then shaft him.

 

[SWP's back]

The rich invest in? Not the working man?

Now that is big news to me.

And then take it away. As in funding for the nursing home we invariably end up in.

It's a travesty. Let the working man slave until he is 70, big him up to believe he is 'investing' and then shaft him.

How would you fund pensions seeing as we are living longer and paying less in, in real terms? Of course the retirement age had to rise. It does for everyone if they are not prepared to increase the amount they put away. It's primary school maths.

And in case, for any readers, I was too subtle before, the majority of money invested, is not owned by "the rich", but by pension funds invested on our behalfs and by your common all garden working people, small investors with a few grand hee and there,

 

[mackenzie]

The rich invest in? Not the working man?

Now that is big news to me.

And then take it away. As in funding for the nursing home we invariably end up in.

It's a travesty. Let the working man slave until he is 70, big him up to believe he is 'investing' and then shaft him.

How would you fund pensions seeing as we are living longer and paying less in, in real terms? Of course the retirement age had to rise. It does for everyone if they are not prepared to increase the amount they put away. It's primary school maths.

And in case, for any readers, I was too subtle before, the majority of money invested, is not owned by "the rich", but by pension funds invested on our behalfs and by your common all garden working people, small investors with a few grand hee and there,

And therein lies the difference between how we see things. (And on another note how the hell am I supposed to back track and fund the last 30 years??)

 

[totallywired]

Well of course he is but i cant think of an easier job. Putting London to a stanstil is a very easy way to get what you want. Me you and Dave doen the pub could once a year demand a pay rise at risk of stopping the capital and he is paid over 90k a year for this. He dines at top restaurants while his members stand on picket lines. Well actually i have never seen a picket line for the TFL getting better pay

If he does the job his members ask him to then what's the problem? Shouldn't he be rewarded for his endeavours? After all, thats the market force that you adhere to isnt it?After all, if they don't like it then they can boot him out.

Not having a go by the way, just showing similarities.

I know mackenzie he is very succesful in what he does but what he does pushes up fares for everyone else, Train drivers, underground etc make good money and get pay rises which would make most people fall over themsleves to accept and yet this pushes down other peoples take home. London underground drivers make 50k a year and thats why there is a 2 year waiting list
Then again after reading what i wrote i can see why they vote him in. Im arguing a lost cause here

-- Wed May 30, 2012 7:49 pm --

That sounds like North Korea to me

To me it sounds like a Union membership is more than happy with there General Secretary, myself included.

An unopposed election sounds like North Korea to me. Thats what you were getting at earlier isnt it.

No, i was getting at sombody denying workers access to a Union Rep.

 

[SWP's back]

And then take it away. As in funding for the nursing home we invariably end up in.

It's a travesty. Let the working man slave until he is 70, big him up to believe he is 'investing' and then shaft him.

How would you fund pensions seeing as we are living longer and paying less in, in real terms? Of course the retirement age had to rise. It does for everyone if they are not prepared to increase the amount they put away. It's primary school maths.

And in case, for any readers, I was too subtle before, the majority of money invested, is not owned by "the rich", but by pension funds invested on our behalfs and by your common all garden working people, small investors with a few grand hee and there,

And therein lies the difference between how we see things. (And on another note how the hell am I supposed to back track and fund the last 30 years??)

You can't, no one can. But it's not the fault of the incumbent government, industrialists or "rich" that we are living longer.

The pot is the same size it always was, but now there are more mouths taking out of it, and for two or three times the length of time that they were.

There's no easy solution to it for those already in their middle years. But it's no ones 'fault'. It's a good news story if anything. Far better than dying at 67 on average.

 

[glen quagmire]

Lol. Bob crow is a cretin. The funny thing is: his fanboys are happy to champion him, like aome sort of idol. His popularity has nothing to do with the previous weak government has it?

Hahahaha, bob crow the leader of the 'moonies'.

 

[mackenzie]

How would you fund pensions seeing as we are living longer and paying less in, in real terms? Of course the retirement age had to rise. It does for everyone if they are not prepared to increase the amount they put away. It's primary school maths.

And in case, for any readers, I was too subtle before, the majority of money invested, is not owned by "the rich", but by pension funds invested on our behalfs and by your common all garden working people, small investors with a few grand hee and there,

And therein lies the difference between how we see things. (And on another note how the hell am I supposed to back track and fund the last 30 years??)

You can't, no one can. But it's not the fault of the incumbent government, industrialists or "rich" that we are living longer.

The pot is the same size it always was, but now there are more mouths taking out of it, and for two or three times the length of time that they were.

There's no easy solution to it for those already in their middle years. But it's no ones 'fault'. It's a good news story if anything. Far better than dying at 67 on average.

We signed a contract. At least me and my employer did back in 1981. They were negligent and have pissed all my pension away. I call that fraud.

 

[mackenzie]

Lol. Bob crow is a cretin. The funny thing is: his fanboys are happy to champion him, like aome sort of idol. His popularity has nothing to do with the previous weak government has it?

Hahahaha, bob crow the leader of the 'moonies'.

As a 'Good' trade unionist I can say that I wouldn't know Bob Crow if I fell over him.

The union in this country is much more than just one individual.

 

[totallywired]

Lol. Bob crow is a cretin. The funny thing is: his fanboys are happy to champion him, like aome sort of idol. His popularity has nothing to do with the previous weak government has it?

Hahahaha, bob crow the leader of the 'moonies'.

Dickhead number 1