Apprentice Union?

[glen quagmire]

Lol. Bob crow is a cretin. The funny thing is: his fanboys are happy to champion him, like aome sort of idol. His popularity has nothing to do with the previous weak government has it?

Hahahaha, bob crow the leader of the 'moonies'.

Dickhead number 1

That's bob crow numbered, i take it you are 2?

 

[SWP's back]

And therein lies the difference between how we see things. (And on another note how the hell am I supposed to back track and fund the last 30 years??)

You can't, no one can. But it's not the fault of the incumbent government, industrialists or "rich" that we are living longer.

The pot is the same size it always was, but now there are more mouths taking out of it, and for two or three times the length of time that they were.

There's no easy solution to it for those already in their middle years. But it's no ones 'fault'. It's a good news story if anything. Far better than dying at 67 on average.

We signed a contract. At least me and my employer did back in 1981. They were negligent and have pissed all my pension away. I call that fraud.

They pissed it away? Who and how?<br /><br />-- Wed May 30, 2012 10:19 pm --<br /><br />

Lol. Bob crow is a cretin. The funny thing is: his fanboys are happy to champion him, like aome sort of idol. His popularity has nothing to do with the previous weak government has it?

Hahahaha, bob crow the leader of the 'moonies'.

Dickhead number 1

Ah the Internet tough guy eh. Kudos.

I bet you wouldn't say that to his face mr union rep.

 

[Feed-The-Goat]

Lol. Bob crow is a cretin. The funny thing is: his fanboys are happy to champion him, like aome sort of idol. His popularity has nothing to do with the previous weak government has it?

Hahahaha, bob crow the leader of the 'moonies'.

Dickhead number 1

That's bob crow numbered, i take it you are 2?

Hes already got the top spot.

 

[mackenzie]

You can't, no one can. But it's not the fault of the incumbent government, industrialists or "rich" that we are living longer.

The pot is the same size it always was, but now there are more mouths taking out of it, and for two or three times the length of time that they were.

There's no easy solution to it for those already in their middle years. But it's no ones 'fault'. It's a good news story if anything. Far better than dying at 67 on average.

We signed a contract. At least me and my employer did back in 1981. They were negligent and have pissed all my pension away. I call that fraud.

They pissed it away? Who and how?

-- Wed May 30, 2012 10:19 pm --

Every fucker. The bankers, the politicians, the 'let's get credit' crowd who had no means to pay it back.

That was my pension they were fucking with. But it's ok, we are just Civil Servants who everyone hates anyway.

 

[yerwot?]

We signed a contract. At least me and my employer did back in 1981. They were negligent and have pissed all my pension away. I call that fraud.

They pissed it away? Who and how?

-- Wed May 30, 2012 10:19 pm --

Every fucker. The bankers, the politicians, the 'let's get credit' crowd who had no means to pay it back.

That was my pension they were fucking with. But it's ok, we are just Civil Servants who everyone hates anyway.

Nah not everyone, just those whose reasoning is impaired by ideological dogma, who
cant spot a deliberate lie or, more likely, pretend to believe it

 

[twinkletoes]

They pissed it away? Who and how?

-- Wed May 30, 2012 10:19 pm --

Every fucker. The bankers, the politicians, the 'let's get credit' crowd who had no means to pay it back.

That was my pension they were fucking with. But it's ok, we are just Civil Servants who everyone hates anyway.

Nah not everyone, just those whose reasoning is impaired by ideological dogma, who
cant spot a deliberate lie or, more likely, pretend to believe it

Amen to that.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Lol. Bob crow is a cretin. The funny thing is: his fanboys are happy to champion him, like aome sort of idol. His popularity has nothing to do with the previous weak government has it?

Hahahaha, bob crow the leader of the 'moonies'.

Dickhead number 1

You are a proper hard man

 

[Feed-The-Goat]

Lol. Bob crow is a cretin. The funny thing is: his fanboys are happy to champion him, like aome sort of idol. His popularity has nothing to do with the previous weak government has it?

Hahahaha, bob crow the leader of the 'moonies'.

Dickhead number 1

You are a proper hard man

 

[metalblue]

We signed a contract. At least me and my employer did back in 1981. They were negligent and have pissed all my pension away. I call that fraud.

They pissed it away? Who and how?

-- Wed May 30, 2012 10:19 pm --

Every fucker. The bankers, the politicians, the 'let's get credit' crowd who had no means to pay it back.

That was my pension they were fucking with. But it's ok, we are just Civil Servants who everyone hates anyway.

Not sure I follow this train of thought. The money was never there to "piss away" it was a commitment given to you by various governments over the years and for breaching that commitment you should be rightly very very angry (and I am on your "side" in this regard although I am principally opposed to final salary public sector pensions for PS workers who do a role that isn't "essential" to the running of the country) but to blame "every fucker" about "my pension" comes across as a bit of a "me me me" attitude and I am sure that is the last thing you would want to convey.

 

[stonerblue]

Tea boys and girls? piss off mate, you try working at £2.50 ph.

I believe alot of companys use this "apprenticeship" as a loop hole to pay young people like my self slave labour wages.

I think everyone who works (even as an apprentice) should be entitled to the NMW.

But you are learning a skill/trade! What about those collecting trolly's, flipping burgers or waiting staff? They are doing the same thing day in day out.

Oh and when i was 16/17 i was on £27.50 a week, in a YTS! I was just thankfull that i got dosh by other means! We don't need to stop 'earning' when the day job ends.....

im not learning fuck all mate, all i do is sit in an office taking phone calls from angry customers all day everyday. i would get a job on full time wages if i could but there is nothing where i live absolutaly nothing. I just dont see why it is so hard to pay aprentices NMW.

So this isn't an apprenticeship in the traditional sense. One where you worked and learned a trade, skill or craft for 3/4 years?

Is it one of the government run things you are made to go on or lose your dole money?