Are Labour a total shambles now as an opposition?

Bigga said:
Has any Prime Minister shook hands with a terrorist advocate/ dictator/ all round douche?

I guess not...


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Good grief, how did that get here...??
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Do you think that because we criticise Corbyn, it should be taken as axiomatic that we must be fanboys of the Saudis, Israelis and trump???
 
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Bigga said:
Ask yourself, would he still be the pariah if he'd have been covered with a clean slate instead having to carry the weight of stigmatisation from the UK press? A view that's tainted minds like yourselves rather than the ideas he has for the UK?

We'll never know, will we..?
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He got the press onside early, hence his ability in the political arena.

Corbyn is naive, old fashioned and incapable.
 
ganganvince said:
Thing is he wasn't Prime minister with obligations he was a very unimportant back bencher who could follow his beliefs. And just to put the peace talks to bed he had no authorised part. Couple of years old but says a lot.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...silence-over-warrington-bombing-35646993.html
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The piece is completely sh*t when based in the fact that Corbyn won't condemn the IRA... in particular.

It's how the media do it. They pressurise you into making a statement of identification and then they hammer you with it or use it to smash down the door of another situation to be specific about. He never gave them those avenues before.

He was smart then, just roundly condemning all acts of war, including those from these shores.

"One man's terrorist..." and all that, in my opinion.

At the moment, being forced into making a statement about 'something' is the same trap he was so good at avoiding, is his downfall.

But, as I said before, you guys churn out the SAME talking points, leaving out the whole context, in order to feed your 'argument'.

I would say it's 'shocking', but that would be a bold faced lie...
 
oldtimerdiscopants said:
I don't need to make up my mind, myself and millions like me will do as we please. I'll not vote for a group of people who obviously care nothing for the working classes, Labour is a middle class and any minority party now and it's dead in the water and the polls are showing it.
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Are you referring to Brexit by saying that? And can you define middle class and working class for me?
 
Bigga said:
The piece is completely sh*t when based in the fact that Corbyn won't condemn the IRA... in particular.

It's how the media do it. They pressurise you into making a statement of identification and then they hammer you with it or use it to smash down the door of another situation to be specific about. He never gave them those avenues before.

He was smart then, just roundly condemning all acts of war, including those from these shores.

"One man's terrorist..." and all that, in my opinion.

At the moment, being forced into making a statement about 'something' is the same trap he was so good at avoiding, is his downfall.

But, as I said before, you guys churn out the SAME talking points, leaving out the whole context, in order to feed your 'argument'.

I would say it's 'shocking', but that would be a bold faced lie...
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Probably best to end conversation there
 
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