Arsenal Thread 2013/14

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Skashion said:
jlc09 said:
Are you for real? Bloody Arsenal spending their own money they've generated.
Arsenal got to the stage where they're at through sound external investment in the shape of Danny Fiszman who injected £50m in the nineties. We're doing the same, it just costs a lot more to do it these days. However, the day isn't far away when we'll be self-sufficient and spending our own money too. Apparently, we're already in the top five revenue for a football club, which means we've displaced Arsenal and Chelsea in generating revenue. Sad day for them.

Funny how this Danny Fiszman story is taken as gospel by some fans, all because of one comment by Tony Adams, a legend who sadly talks alot of bullshit and embellishes everything, mainly because he's been overlooked for jobs at the club(and he thinks he's fit to run the club fwiw which is funny). I've talked to numerous people about this 50m story and nobody can say for certain that it's true.

I don't think City are top 5 for revenue, you're pushing for it but then every club is also trying to increase theirs, ours will continue to increase too with sponsorships etc so we'll be right up there.
 
jlc09 said:
Skashion said:
jlc09 said:
Are you for real? Bloody Arsenal spending their own money they've generated.
Arsenal got to the stage where they're at through sound external investment in the shape of Danny Fiszman who injected £50m in the nineties. We're doing the same, it just costs a lot more to do it these days. However, the day isn't far away when we'll be self-sufficient and spending our own money too. Apparently, we're already in the top five revenue for a football club, which means we've displaced Arsenal and Chelsea in generating revenue. Sad day for them.

Funny how this Danny Fiszman story is taken as gospel by some fans, all because of one comment by Tony Adams, a legend who sadly talks alot of bullshit and embellishes everything, mainly because he's been overlooked for jobs at the club(and he thinks he's fit to run the club fwiw which is funny). I've talked to numerous people about this 50m story and nobody can say for certain that it's true.

I don't think City are top 5 for revenue, you're pushing for it but then every club is also trying to increase theirs, ours will continue to increase too with sponsorships etc so we'll be right up there.

I think arsenal is best run club in the league at the moment and we have more money to spend. With one of the best managers in the world and a great team we are only going to get stronger.
 
waspish said:
They had Bale last season and the league was over for us, Napoli are a good side but not as good as a few year a go..

Agree that arsenal will be there or there abouts just like to see them play a top team when it really matters and that will probably be 14th December

I bet you were one of those who was laughing at Arsenal when we drew Napoli and Dortmund. Then we hammer Napoli and they're not that good apparently.

Face it, we're a strong side this season and are challenging. We'll also get out of the CL group.
 
jlc09 said:
waspish said:
They had Bale last season and the league was over for us, Napoli are a good side but not as good as a few year a go..

Agree that arsenal will be there or there abouts just like to see them play a top team when it really matters and that will probably be 14th December

I bet you were one of those who was laughing at Arsenal when we drew Napoli and Dortmund. Then we hammer Napoli and they're not that good apparently.

Face it, we're a strong side this season and are challenging. We'll also get out of the CL group.


Well said mate. We for me now one of strongest teams in england and can win the champions league. We win the toughest group and can go all the way to lisbon if we play well.

Don,t forget we were the only team in europe to beat european champions bayern munich last season on their own turf

Klopp even said after his team won 1-0 yesterday that we are the best team in england. Might be over the top but we have a great team that has a top chance of winning the league at the emirates in may.
 
City and Chelsea are still favourites for me, they're up there and have another gear you'd suspect.

But the chemistry and balance of our side looks like it can bridge the gap and make us challenge. I'd hope for a good title challenge and win a cup to end this drought, stop the press mentioning it every week.

Big chance next weekend with Palace away and City/Chelsea playing eachother. Need to capitalise. Dortmund before that will be hard but we're favourites at home and they have injury problems. 3 pts there and we're almost through.
 
Arsenal are playing well, there's no doubt about that. It's a shame your fucking manager didn't bite the bullet years ago and spend large - God only knows how many titles you could have won by now if he'd swallowed his pride before now. You'd probably still have Van Persie and Fabregas which would quite frankly be scary.
 
jlc09 said:
Skashion said:
jlc09 said:
Are you for real? Bloody Arsenal spending their own money they've generated.
Arsenal got to the stage where they're at through sound external investment in the shape of Danny Fiszman who injected £50m in the nineties. We're doing the same, it just costs a lot more to do it these days. However, the day isn't far away when we'll be self-sufficient and spending our own money too. Apparently, we're already in the top five revenue for a football club, which means we've displaced Arsenal and Chelsea in generating revenue. Sad day for them.

. I've talked to numerous people about this 50m story and nobody can say for certain that it's true.

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Quality. You slag off one of your finest on the assumption that he's a know nowt gobshite and then you have the front to say you or anyone else you've asked knows if it has any validity at all.
I'd suggest to you that Adams has more idea of what went on in the inner sanctum of Highbury than you or your cronies ever will.
 
jlc09 said:
City and Chelsea are still favourites for me, they're up there and have another gear you'd suspect.

But the chemistry and balance of our side looks like it can bridge the gap and make us challenge. I'd hope for a good title challenge and win a cup to end this drought, stop the press mentioning it every week.

Big chance next weekend with Palace away and City/Chelsea playing eachother. Need to capitalise. Dortmund before that will be hard but we're favourites at home and they have injury problems. 3 pts there and we're almost through.

I think to be honest we have a better squard little bit then both city and chelsea do now. But their little between the three of us. I think we have best chance since 2005 of winning league. more so then 2008 when our lack of depth showed.
Your right that next weekend give us chance to open the gap. beat palace and hopefully those two draw and we can four clear of chelsea and five clear of city before liverpool and united games.

I think we beat dortmund on tuesday. their defence looks shocking this season as shown in their 2-0 away defeat few weeks back. Also loss of gotze has hurt them big time in terms of a playmaker. Their give us a game but fancy us to beat them 3-1.
 
Gaylord du Bois said:
Quality. You slag off one of your finest on the assumption that he's a know nowt gobshite and then you have the front to say you or anyone else you've asked knows if it has any validity at all.
I'd suggest to you that Adams has more idea of what went on in the inner sanctum of Highbury than you or your cronies ever will.

No, I'm questioning the 50m stuff which is taken as gospel but cannot be backed up anywhere.
 
jlc09 said:
Funny how this Danny Fiszman story is taken as gospel by some fans, all because of one comment by Tony Adams, a legend who sadly talks alot of bullshit and embellishes everything, mainly because he's been overlooked for jobs at the club(and he thinks he's fit to run the club fwiw which is funny). I've talked to numerous people about this 50m story and nobody can say for certain that it's true.

I don't think City are top 5 for revenue, you're pushing for it but then every club is also trying to increase theirs, ours will continue to increase too with sponsorships etc so we'll be right up there.
Tony Adams can say when he got his first decent contract though and he says he got it when Fiszman's money came in. It's also a strange coincidence that it's around that time Arsenal started spending on some quality players and winning things.

We have a quote from our CFO Tom Glick saying we are:

Next year Manchester will have two of the top five clubs in terms of worldwide revenues, we’re catching up with Bayern Munich,

I reckon he knows what he's talking about. We were only £4m behind Arsenal for 2011/12. Do I reckon we've generated plus £4m over your increases over a year? Abso-fucking-lutely. Chelsea were another plus £30m but they won the Champions League that season.
 
malg said:
Arsenal are playing well, there's no doubt about that. It's a shame your fucking manager didn't bite the bullet years ago and spend large - God only knows how many titles you could have won by now if he'd swallowed his pride before now. You'd probably still have Van Persie and Fabregas which would quite frankly be scary.

you are right and he should have spent bigger earlier but to be fair he did not as he did not want us in debt, Point is now we got a a amazing which we only get stronger and stronger.
 
jlc09 said:
waspish said:
They had Bale last season and the league was over for us, Napoli are a good side but not as good as a few year a go..

Agree that arsenal will be there or there abouts just like to see them play a top team when it really matters and that will probably be 14th December

I bet you were one of those who was laughing at Arsenal when we drew Napoli and Dortmund. Then we hammer Napoli and they're not that good apparently.

Face it, we're a strong side this season and are challenging. We'll also get out of the CL group.

The longer arsenal stay in the champs league the less they have the chance to win the league your squad not strong enough... 8 games in arsenal are the best team in the league but like I've said you have played no one just like us
 
waspish said:
jlc09 said:
waspish said:
They had Bale last season and the league was over for us, Napoli are a good side but not as good as a few year a go..

Agree that arsenal will be there or there abouts just like to see them play a top team when it really matters and that will probably be 14th December

I bet you were one of those who was laughing at Arsenal when we drew Napoli and Dortmund. Then we hammer Napoli and they're not that good apparently.

Face it, we're a strong side this season and are challenging. We'll also get out of the CL group.

The longer arsenal stay in the champs league the less they have the chance to win the league your squad not strong enough... 8 games in arsenal are the best team in the league but like I've said you have played no one just like us

I disagree that we don,t have the squad to win the league. we got now one of best squads in europe and i think can win both the league and the champions league if we hit top form .

I think their not much between us, you and chelsea. But all three of us can win the league. we played like ourselves two good teams and won and are good enough to beat anyone we play in europe as we showed last season when we beat bayern munich.
 
gooner2 said:
waspish said:
jlc09 said:
I bet you were one of those who was laughing at Arsenal when we drew Napoli and Dortmund. Then we hammer Napoli and they're not that good apparently.

Face it, we're a strong side this season and are challenging. We'll also get out of the CL group.

The longer arsenal stay in the champs league the less they have the chance to win the league your squad not strong enough... 8 games in arsenal are the best team in the league but like I've said you have played no one just like us

I disagree that we don,t have the squad to win the league. we got now one of best squads in europe and i think can win both the league and the champions league if we hit top form .

I think their not much between us, you and chelsea. But all three of us can win the league. we played like ourselves two good teams and won and are good enough to beat anyone we play in europe as we showed last season when we beat bayern munich.

You have an excellent squad but think you lack a top striker and another centre back, also think Ozil is irreplaceable we have Nasri and Jovetic if silva get injured
 
waspish said:
gooner2 said:
waspish said:
The longer arsenal stay in the champs league the less they have the chance to win the league your squad not strong enough... 8 games in arsenal are the best team in the league but like I've said you have played no one just like us

I disagree that we don,t have the squad to win the league. we got now one of best squads in europe and i think can win both the league and the champions league if we hit top form .

I think their not much between us, you and chelsea. But all three of us can win the league. we played like ourselves two good teams and won and are good enough to beat anyone we play in europe as we showed last season when we beat bayern munich.

You have an excellent squad but think you lack a top striker and another centre back, also think Ozil is irreplaceable we have Nasri and Jovetic if silva get injured

Look i think city have a strong squard though i think both us and you lack quality back up at the back. I think my only worry would be if mertersacker of koschney get injured though with tv to come in if they do and can play sagan at the back. Don,t think we need another top striker. we already got giroud, walcott and pod who all will score loads this season.

I think you have a strong midfield and strikers but lack cover when kompany injured. Amazed he keeps lescott on the bench so often when he was so good for you during your title winning season.

We both of the same level though i think we have the better manager.
 
gooner2 said:
waspish said:
Yep it will be us Chelsea and arsenal who will win the league this season but like is Arsenal haven't played anyone decent yet

Don,t agree we not played anyone decent. We beaten both spurs and nappoli at home who are both top teams. So hardly can say we not played anyone decent.

fancy us to beat dortmund and liverpool at home but united and dortmund away will be tough.


These next few games will decide if Arsenal are title challengers or not. Great start to the season but I still think the top 3 will be Ushited, Chelsea and us.



P.S is there a gif of Jacks goal yesterday?
 
Kun Aguero said:
gooner2 said:
waspish said:
Yep it will be us Chelsea and arsenal who will win the league this season but like is Arsenal haven't played anyone decent yet

Don,t agree we not played anyone decent. We beaten both spurs and nappoli at home who are both top teams. So hardly can say we not played anyone decent.

fancy us to beat dortmund and liverpool at home but united and dortmund away will be tough.


These next few games will decide if Arsenal are title challengers or not. Great start to the season but I still think the top 3 will be Ushited, Chelsea and us.



P.S is there a gif of Jacks goal yesterday?

Their a long way to go but we looking good. Still think it be us, you and city but going to be a great battle.

Think you can see jack goal on 101 great goald
 
gooner2 said:
waspish said:
gooner2 said:
I disagree that we don,t have the squad to win the league. we got now one of best squads in europe and i think can win both the league and the champions league if we hit top form .

I think their not much between us, you and chelsea. But all three of us can win the league. we played like ourselves two good teams and won and are good enough to beat anyone we play in europe as we showed last season when we beat bayern munich.

You have an excellent squad but think you lack a top striker and another centre back, also think Ozil is irreplaceable we have Nasri and Jovetic if silva get injured

Look i think city have a strong squard though i think both us and you lack quality back up at the back. I think my only worry would be if mertersacker of koschney get injured though with tv to come in if they do and can play sagan at the back. Don,t think we need another top striker. we already got giroud, walcott and pod who all will score loads this season.

I think you have a strong midfield and strikers but lack cover when kompany injured. Amazed he keeps lescott on the bench so often when he was so good for you during your title winning season.

We both of the same level though i think we have the better manager.

Maybe but the winning mentality as in winning the league and a cup is fresh in our players minds that's the only doubt for arsenal
 
waspish said:
gooner2 said:
waspish said:
You have an excellent squad but think you lack a top striker and another centre back, also think Ozil is irreplaceable we have Nasri and Jovetic if silva get injured

Look i think city have a strong squard though i think both us and you lack quality back up at the back. I think my only worry would be if mertersacker of koschney get injured though with tv to come in if they do and can play sagan at the back. Don,t think we need another top striker. we already got giroud, walcott and pod who all will score loads this season.

I think you have a strong midfield and strikers but lack cover when kompany injured. Amazed he keeps lescott on the bench so often when he was so good for you during your title winning season.

We both of the same level though i think we have the better manager.

Maybe but the winning mentality as in winning the league and a cup is fresh in our players minds that's the only doubt for arsenal

You have a fair point and i think we going to have to show we can deal with the pressure come march time. So you make a fair point their.
 
We've heard for many seasons that Arsenal haven't had the squad to win the league but now they have started well and brought in one decent player they now have the squad to do it.

Haven't they released more players than they've brought in, so what's changed?
 
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