The perfect fumble
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You and I know what politicians say definitely won't happen quite often does.
I'd happily be proven wrong.
You and I know what politicians say definitely won't happen quite often does.
Is that so.
It sounded ok mate.Ok Len, in relation to your challenge of what do brexiters want does what I want not sound to mental?
Pleased that you're still going to reply to my question. Look forward to receiving your reply.Well done Prime Minister - an absolute game changer and holding a GE will strengthen the UK's negotiating position enormously
Really glad that I have not gotten around to answering your question yet Len - my response will be much more bullish now. We should all, IMO - whether leave or Remain voters - wish to celebrate that there is now clear evidence that Mrs May is absolutely committed to Brexit and has the capacity for determination - even ruthlessness in decision making. I say whether Leave or Remain voters because it now seems clear that we at leaving the EU so we should want the best for the UK and that those negotiating for us to have the strongest possible position.
All those poncy games being played by the likes of Farron and Benn recently - the GE will be like a flood that cleanses away all the detritus and the wasters that have been threatening to undermine the UK during the negotiations.
You can imagine that there will be a number of long-voting Labour constituencies that will be willing to vote Conservative this time secure Brexit, whereas such as places where I live (Wokingham) whilst perhaps last year returning a Remain majority there is not any chance they will switch from the Conservatives.
And as for UKIP - why would not every UKIP voter not vote Conservative on this occasion - they get everything they have wanted.
Good news for Labour - you will have a new leader in July - good for the UK as well because our democracy needs an effective opposition and especially good news for the UK as May will have 5 years to make Brexit a cemented reality - with no/limited scope for it to be reversed
Agree with that.I suppose the only thing that might be positive about this shabby opportunism, is that May (hopefully) will be forced to outline where the fuck she's going with Brexit. As she has just stated in front of No 10 she wants an ringing endorsement to do whatever it is she's about to do, then an election might just tease out what the fuck that is.
The woman can certainly lie to camera, citing as the prime mover behind this snap election a divided Parliament against a unified country, what a duplicitous shit! When what she really meant was that she has a divided government and an election victory will strengthen her hand against the likes of Fox, Davis, Redwood, Cash, Duncan Smith et all.
Though that might be a misreading of her intentions, perhaps she'll use this election to resurrect a Red, White and Blue Brexit, no deal better than a bad deal. The concessions she has had to make so far were all in response to the hard reality of her weak bargaining position, she knows and anyone following the Brexit process knows, that no "good deal" is going to emerge from Brussels, so maybe she wants an endorsement to hard Brexit and blame the shit storm on the perfidious Europeans.
Agree with that.
My own view is that it indicates a softer Brexit is more likely but who knows?
As you say It will be very interesting to see how she and the government respond to questions about potential Brexit outcomes , like for instance the impact of 'no deal'.
She's called this election to get a mandate for her kind of Brexit, she can't hide behind the 'no running commentary' anymore or " can't tell you that as it would compromise our negotiating position" mantra.
Cue the mud slinging on Jezz and McDonald.