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argyle said:
What I mean is injuries and suspensions can happen - but better recruitment wouldn't have left us short.

The recruitment we have done means Pep doesn't trust Phillips, Kovacic or Nunes.

Instead he preferred an only just fit centre back in midfield before them.
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Good point - pep certainly has a trust issue in our centre midfield
 
cleavers said:
This post doesn't make sense, he recruited 2 of them a year them after Phillips, it's clear he's only there to smile on the bench.
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Yes Phillips wasn't this summer gone but all 3 were bought for the midfield role. All 3 look poor buys.

A shadow of Gundogan and not a patch on Rodri.
 
Fair play to Villa tonight as I thought they were well up for this game and were very good. City were shocking and the performance was really poor. From an injury point of view, we only have 2 players out (KDB and Doku) and we had Rodri and Jack suspended. What does this tell us about the depth of our squad? Phillips clearly doesn’t figure in future plans as he can’t even get on as a substitute. The writing has been on the wall over the last 4 games where we have thrown the lead away and now haven’t won against any of our major opponents. The only player who comes out with any credit tonight is Ederson who saved us from an embarrassing result.
 
That was truly painful to watch and the score line doesn’t do Villa justice. Can’t believe how easy it is to carve us open, it’s happening constantly in nearly every game. How have we gone from looking so solid at the back to the shit we’re witnessing right now in a matter of months?!? Best defence in Europe my arse.

I know we can’t blame them for the shite served up tonight as it was pretty much the whole team, but Kovacic despite looking decent early on, looks devoid of any creativity whatsoever and Nunes looks like he won a competition to get into this team, he looks Bebe levels of shite.
 
Dave El Magico said:
Fair play to Villa tonight as I thought they were well up for this game and were very good. City were shocking and the performance was really poor. From an injury point of view, we only have 2 players out (KDB and Doku) and we had Rodri and Jack suspended. What does this tell us about the depth of our squad? Phillips clearly doesn’t figure in future plans as he can’t even get on as a substitute. The writing has been on the wall over the last 4 games where we have thrown the lead away and now haven’t won against any of our major opponents. The only player who comes out with any credit tonight is Ederson who saved us from an embarrassing result.
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And Walkers not a fucking right winger, thought Pep had realised this last season
 
6 behind arsenal, 4 behind liverpool but most shockingly just 3 ahead of utd.

Thats how poor we've been recently.

Spurs had loads out the other day and they raised their game.
 
Villa played us at own game tonight and we couldn’t handle them, at one point I thought they had more players than us. Only 6 points in it so no need to panic just yet it’s a long season and all the teams have improved if we are in the mix in March I will be very happy.
 
jimmygrimblesboots said:
Chelsea , Dippers , Spurs and an improving Villa was always going to be a tough run of games add the injuries and suspensions and there needs some perspective , we have some easier games on the horizon and hopefully Stones , Doku , Rodri and Grealish available for the weekend.
This is a piece of piss compared to York away !!!
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The last four teams we have failed to beat all have huge quality squads filled with lots of 50m players, Luton for all their endeavor should be a different kettle of fish, even in the form we are in
 
argyle said:
Yes Phillips wasn't this summer gone but all 3 were bought for the midfield role. All 3 look poor buys.

A shadow of Gundogan and not a patch on Rodri.
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Nunes was a bit of a "panic" buy for me, because of KdB, and he looks it. Kovacic looked great to start with, then got an injury and doesn't look to have come back yet (is he fully fit ?).
 
Bluemoon_420 said:
That was truly painful to watch and the score line doesn’t do Villa justice. Can’t believe how easy it is to carve us open, it’s happening constantly in nearly every game. How have we gone from looking so solid at the back to the shit we’re witnessing right now in a matter of months?!? Best defence in Europe my arse.

I know we can’t blame them for the shite served up tonight as it was pretty much the whole team, but Kovacic despite looking decent early on, looks devoid of any creativity whatsoever and Nunes looks like he won a competition to get into this team, he looks Bebe levels of shite.
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The club went from wanting Bellingham to buying Nunes.

That's a Garcia level signing from Mancini's last summer.

He kicked it out of play tonight when under no pressure.

If the rags bought him we'd be laughing at his lack of quality.
 
It feels like all our chickens are coming home to roost.

We got away with a small squad last season because we had minimal injuries. This season our luck ran out.

Then we made the decision to sell all our crown jewels in the EDS squad, in order to show how financially clever we were in balancing the books. In my opinion this was a definite error of judgement.

Then we had arguably a very poor transfer window. At this stage, in my opinion, the only player earning his keep is Doku. The others are simply not good enough or learning their craft (Gvardiol).

Then there is the hangover from winning the treble. Half the players look like their mental approach has been affected this season. In this league even if you're 95% committed, that's not good enough and you'll be found out.

I'm sure others smarter than me will raise other issues, but off the top of my head I think these factors are contributing to our season so far.
 
jollylescott said:
It feels like all our chickens are coming home to roost.

We got away with a small squad last season because we had minimal injuries. This season our luck ran out.

Then we made the decision to sell all our crown jewels in the EDS squad, in order to show how financially clever we were in balancing the books. In my opinion this was a definite error of judgement.

Then we had arguably a very poor transfer window. At this stage, in my opinion, the only player earning his keep is Doku. The others are simply not good enough or learning their craft (Gvardiol).

Then there is the hangover from winning the treble. Half the players look like their mental approach has been affected this season. In this league even if you're 95% committed, that's not good enough and you'll be found out.

I'm sure others smarter than me will raise other issues, but off the top of my head I think these factors are contributing to our season so far.
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3-4 seasons ago we had better players than Villa/Spurs/Arsenal/Luton in pretty much every position, that’s not the case anymore
 
jollylescott said:
It feels like all our chickens are coming home to roost.



Then we had arguably a very poor transfer window. At this stage, in my opinion, the only player earning his keep is Doku. The others are simply not good enough or learning their craft (Gvardiol).
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I do think part of the issue is the transfers came in late. No pre season and then a few weeks of Pep out. With midfielders and defenders it’s so much more about the system and without any really time to learn that, it exacerbates any issues. Not minimizing Dokus talent, but I also think his role is easier in terms of getting up to speed. He’s less dependent on the people around him. And if we were fully healthy and the transfers were getting put in as the one change in an established XI, I think we’d have fewer complaints. Instead were asking many of them to be replacements for players they were never meant to truly replace.
 
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