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Swales lives said:Forzacitizens said:it's all getting a bit tiresome isn't it? the BA staff should count themselves lucky as it is, they are paid much more than any other airline, just the unions being greedy. They need to be careful, otherwise they won't have an airline to work for if BA keep making losses of £500 million
People keep saying that the staff are on a good number and they should thank their lucky stars they've got a job. I say this is total bollocks. They took these jobs (signed contracts) in good faith, times get a bit rough, so the bosses say "Right, no more perks, forget your contracts, and we expect you to work longer hours and we won't pay you.".
I work for various companies who have absolutely butt-fucked their employees, loads of them working an extra 15 hours a week (unpaid), written warnings for staff who haven't worked enough unpaid overtime. The overtime will never return. The employees have sold their own souls to keep their jobs, I understand their predicament and some are my friends.
So I salute the BA cabin staff with their stance. Good luck to 'em. And I don't care if BA go bust, the day they moved out of the regions and went totally London-centric was the day I stopped giving a shit about them. BA are wankers.
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This is all about a company going all out to destroy a union.
UNITE offered to take a large pay cut but BA wanted more, yet i've not seen one balanced news piece about the dispute and this will get worse. With a Tory government backing employers to the hilt other Unions will get bullying employers given carte blanche to what they like.
This dispute is the acid test for trade unionism in the country and will end up the start of the death or hopefully the rebirth of the trade union movement. It's about time all TU's put pressure on the TUC general sec to openly support UNITE rather than make limp wristed statements.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.brutish-airways.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.brutish-airways.com/</a>
law74
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mat said:Swales lives said:People keep saying that the staff are on a good number and they should thank their lucky stars they've got a job. I say this is total bollocks. They took these jobs (signed contracts) in good faith, times get a bit rough, so the bosses say "Right, no more perks, forget your contracts, and we expect you to work longer hours and we won't pay you.".
I work for various companies who have absolutely butt-fucked their employees, loads of them working an extra 15 hours a week (unpaid), written warnings for staff who haven't worked enough unpaid overtime. The overtime will never return. The employees have sold their own souls to keep their jobs, I understand their predicament and some are my friends.
So I salute the BA cabin staff with their stance. Good luck to 'em. And I don't care if BA go bust, the day they moved out of the regions and went totally London-centric was the day I stopped giving a shit about them. BA are wankers.
+1
This is all about a company going all out to destroy a union.
UNITE offered to take a large pay cut but BA wanted more, yet i've not seen one balanced news piece about the dispute and this will get worse. With a Tory government backing employers to the hilt other Unions will get bullying employers given carte blanche to what they like.
This dispute is the acid test for trade unionism in the country and will end up the start of the death or hopefully the rebirth of the trade union movement. It's about time all TU's put pressure on the TUC general sec to openly support UNITE rather than make limp wristed statements.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.brutish-airways.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.brutish-airways.com/</a>
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Over 10% of BA cabin Crew live overseas so have to fly in to London to start their work, because BA have an agreement with their staff for discounted seats (that otherwise would be empty), BA bosses are getting above themselves and trying to smash the Union, they will fail, as will other companies or governments that try to break the workers resolve to defend their terms and conditions of employment.
feedthegoat2007
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mat said:Swales lives said:People keep saying that the staff are on a good number and they should thank their lucky stars they've got a job. I say this is total bollocks. They took these jobs (signed contracts) in good faith, times get a bit rough, so the bosses say "Right, no more perks, forget your contracts, and we expect you to work longer hours and we won't pay you.".
I work for various companies who have absolutely butt-fucked their employees, loads of them working an extra 15 hours a week (unpaid), written warnings for staff who haven't worked enough unpaid overtime. The overtime will never return. The employees have sold their own souls to keep their jobs, I understand their predicament and some are my friends.
So I salute the BA cabin staff with their stance. Good luck to 'em. And I don't care if BA go bust, the day they moved out of the regions and went totally London-centric was the day I stopped giving a shit about them. BA are wankers.
+1
This is all about a company going all out to destroy a union.
UNITE offered to take a large pay cut but BA wanted more, yet i've not seen one balanced news piece about the dispute and this will get worse. With a Tory government backing employers to the hilt other Unions will get bullying employers given carte blanche to what they like.
This dispute is the acid test for trade unionism in the country and will end up the start of the death or hopefully the rebirth of the trade union movement. It's about time all TU's put pressure on the TUC general sec to openly support UNITE rather than make limp wristed statements.
are you sure its not the union out to destoy british airways,unite is purely flexing its muscles and at the moment it seems all about ego`s,with the unite top representatives trying to justify the huge pay rises they gave themselves recently.
LongsightM13
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Good on them. Willie Walsh is an odious, despicable creep of an employer straight out of Dickens. The Tories will shaft the working man of the few rights he has left. People don't go on strike lightly these days. It is the last resort when management are blatantly shitting on you
Forzacitizens
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LongsightM13 said:Good on them. Willie Walsh is an odious, despicable creep of an employer straight out of Dickens. The Tories will shaft the working man of the few rights he has left. People don't go on strike lightly these days. It is the last resort when management are blatantly shitting on you
at least they have jobs, they should be grateful, same old greedy unions
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Forzacitizens said:LongsightM13 said:Good on them. Willie Walsh is an odious, despicable creep of an employer straight out of Dickens. The Tories will shaft the working man of the few rights he has left. People don't go on strike lightly these days. It is the last resort when management are blatantly shitting on you
at least they have jobs, they should be grateful, same old greedy unions
Wheres the greed in taking A PAY CUT!!!?
law74
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Forzacitizens said:LongsightM13 said:Good on them. Willie Walsh is an odious, despicable creep of an employer straight out of Dickens. The Tories will shaft the working man of the few rights he has left. People don't go on strike lightly these days. It is the last resort when management are blatantly shitting on you
at least they have jobs, they should be grateful, same old greedy unions
Dont let the facts get in the way of your opinion, but the people that entered the ACAS building were not Union members but members of the Socialist Workers party.
But hey, blame the unions for standing up for their members rights.
LongsightM13
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Ha. Is that response for real? Or are you auditioning for A Christmas Carol at panto time? Mr Scrooge?Forzacitizens said:at least they have jobs, they should be grateful, same old greedy unionsLongsightM13 said:Good on them. Willie Walsh is an odious, despicable creep of an employer straight out of Dickens. The Tories will shaft the working man of the few rights he has left. People don't go on strike lightly these days. It is the last resort when management are blatantly shitting on you
Swales lives
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law74 said:Forzacitizens said:at least they have jobs, they should be grateful, same old greedy unions
Dont let the facts get in the way of your opinion, but the people that entered the ACAS building were not Union members but members of the Socialist Workers party.
But hey, blame the unions for standing up for their members rights.
It's good to know that you're taking in all the opinions on here Forza, it's wonderful to see thinkers like you, seeing through all the right-wing media bias and coming out with a gem like that.
Well done.