BA Cabin Crew

mat said:
rickmcfc said:
No, a bit of compramise wouldnt go a miss. When BA fly to Shark El Sheik, they give there staff 2 whole days turnaround time, all hotels and expenses paid for. When Easyjet fly there, the crew have 4 hours to turn the plane around, and set off again. They are paid less, dont have anywhere near the same expenses levels, and i dint see them complaining. BA staff are a joke, i hope every single one of them loses there jobs over this. Like i said, i wont fly BA again, why dont they think of the passengers for one second, those pasengers who have booked a summer holiday to fly with them, only to turn up at the airport to find they cant go on that holiday, which they will have saved up all year for, only to be told they cant go because the greedy staff want too much.

THEY ARE STRIKING OVER AN AGREED PAYCUT THAT THEY AGREED TO ONLY FOR BA TO ASK FOR MORE. GREED IS NOT AN ISSUE!!!

Some people should actually look at the issues rather than believe what the media is telling them.
Chill.
 
So, the joint secretary of Unite was 'tweeting' his own thoughts during the talks between the Union & BA. Pathetic. The talks have now broken down completely.
 
BTH said:
As the national flag-carrier BA wouldn't be allowed to go bust by any government and I'm sure Lord Snooty and his Tory/fencesitting LibDem pals wouldn't see them go down the drain.

I'm amazed and disappointed to see how much anti-union sentiment there is on here. It's times like these when we need unions. BA, I'm afraid, is the thin edge of the wedge.

Wait until the multi-millionaire Lord Snooty embarks on his slash and burn policies elsewhere, starting with the easy target of the public sector.

Your job could be next; you have been warned.

good post BTH


First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialist
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Pastor Martin Niemoller
 
Cheesy said:
So, the joint secretary of Unite was 'tweeting' his own thoughts during the talks between the Union & BA. Pathetic. The talks have now broken down completely.


So it's OK for BA to send emails to their employees whilst they were in talks and UNITE reps sit on their hands? It's a well known management tactic to spread whats going on during a "Confidential" meeting only for the reps to come out with a hoard of text messages saying we've caved according to their emails. I know that from my own experience.

Walsh wants to destroy UNITE otherwise he'd have been at ACAS this morning at 9am where Woodley and Simpson were waiting for him. Instead he chose to go on Anderw Marr and slag reps off.

He's not interested in a deal.
 
bluevengence said:
BTH said:
As the national flag-carrier BA wouldn't be allowed to go bust by any government and I'm sure Lord Snooty and his Tory/fencesitting LibDem pals wouldn't see them go down the drain.

I'm amazed and disappointed to see how much anti-union sentiment there is on here. It's times like these when we need unions. BA, I'm afraid, is the thin edge of the wedge.

Wait until the multi-millionaire Lord Snooty embarks on his slash and burn policies elsewhere, starting with the easy target of the public sector.

Your job could be next; you have been warned.

good post BTH

oh dear, talk about scare mongering

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialist
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Pastor Martin Niemoller
 
The more i think about it, the greater importance i am placing on this dispute.
If the management win and force through their draconian policies against the wishes of the Union and their staff, then i think it will only be a matter of time before the tories and their cohorts try and smash the Trade Union movement in this country, and that is one of the reasons why I am totally behind Unite.
I feel an autunm and winter of discontent brewing where the government go toe to toe with the trade unions, and it will be make your mind up time for Labour and the Lib-dems, finishing with the present condem alliance disentigrating and another election being called.
If the union and their members have to go through with their planned withdrawal of labour, and management back down, it will be a great day for collective bargaining and workers standing together to defend their jobs, terms and conditions of employment, and will show government and business that the people united will never be defeated.
 
Skashion said:
The trade union movement is already dead in this country.

While it has not anything like the power it once had thanks to thatcher, and in manufacturing and heavy industry it is less of a force, with PSC and Unite amongst others still very strong in their fields, it is far from dead, and i feel that the coming months will see membership flourish as more and more workers feel that they need to stick together against unwarented and unprovoked attacks on their conditions of employment.
 
law74 said:
Skashion said:
The trade union movement is already dead in this country.

While it has not anything like the power it once had thanks to thatcher, and in manufacturing and heavy industry it is less of a force, with PSC and Unite amongst others still very strong in their fields, it is far from dead, and i feel that the coming months will see membership flourish as more and more workers feel that they need to stick together against unwarented and unprovoked attacks on their conditions of employment.


It's happening on the railways too. Thanks to anti-trade union laws and fragmentation we cannot have a national railstrike. Train Operating companies are sacking reps on spurious charges. We uncovered a blacklist of workers within our company and will ballot shortly over that and the sackings of peoples legally elected reps and were not the only ones.

Won't be long before i'm one of them for having the termerity to say no.
 
Nice to see some optimism but it's not optimism I share. The minute a strike might inconvenience people, the British public will not support it. Without public support, strikes will fail. There also seems to be a 'macho' attitude to striking in this country whereby any strike is met with the following reaction: "What are they complaining about, they're lucky to have jobs, or else; my Dad used to work down t'mines twenty-six hours a day and a loaf of bread had to last all thirty-seven of us all week".
 

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