Bale or Hazard?

richards30 said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
Have the people who are saying hazzard actually watched him play apart from you tube. Bale would be the safer option and we could work out a deal to get ade of the books.
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Ade, aj and £15m cash for bale would be good??
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Ade and 20-25 mill, wouldn't want to give them aj aswell, he might play better with bale as opposition wouldnt be able to just focus on him.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
Have the people who are saying hazzard actually watched him play apart from you tube. Bale would be the safer option and we could work out a deal to get ade of the books.
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I don't agree with this at all, if you put aside the settling in period where he might have the odd struggle like Silva did, Hazard will suit our style of play more than Bale. Bale is fast, skillful, and direct... but Hazard is technically superior and our system with the quick passing and quick thinking would suit him. Put Bale in that system and I have a feeling he could struggle a little, he is not as intelligent as Hazard, Bale relies a lot on pure pace and skill, Hazard uses his brain more and has vision that Bale doesn't. Bale will burst down forward and put a cross in. Hazard will burst forward but think while he's doing it and make one of various choices his brain finds. Hazard is the most talented young player in Europe PLUS he'll actually be cheaper than Bale, you take these risks even though to me Hazard is not a huge risk as I'm convinced he'd have an impact. The physicality of the Premier League? He is butchered weekly by hatchet men in France, it's full of them.
 
LoveCity said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
Have the people who are saying hazzard actually watched him play apart from you tube. Bale would be the safer option and we could work out a deal to get ade of the books.
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I don't agree with this at all, if you put aside the settling in period where he might have the odd struggle like Silva did, Hazard will suit our style of play more than Bale. Bale is fast, skillful, and direct... but Hazard is technically superior and our system with the quick passing and quick thinking would suit him. Put Bale in that system and I have a feeling he could struggle a little, he is not as intelligent as Hazard, Bale relies a lot on pure pace and skill, Hazard uses his brain more and has vision that Bale doesn't. Bale will burst down forward and put a cross in. Hazard will burst forward but think while he's doing it and make one of various choices his brain finds. Hazard is the most talented young player in Europe PLUS he'll actually be cheaper than Bale, you take these risks even though to me Hazard is not a huge risk as I'm convinced he'd have an impact. The physicality of the Premier League? He is butchered weekly by hatchet men in France, it's full of them.
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Fair enough, ive not seen enough of hazzard to make a real opinion, I watch bale most weeks and for me he would give us something different but tbh I would have either of them and I trust mancini with his signings.
 
Bale without a shadow of a doubt.

We've got enough players who can play the neat passing game and whilst I agree Hazard would fit in well with us, I think we need the different option Bale would give us. You only have to see how much of an impact a lightening quick, powerful, direct winger makes to United. And you only have to see how much of an impact a different tactical option gives you with the De Jong substitution yesterday. We simply have to get an old fashioned winger and Bale is the best in the world at what he does.
 
What's the chances of levy letting bale join us though?? Would love to have him but not if we get banged in the ass by twitcher and the spuds!!
 
richards30 said:
spurspinter1 said:
TCIB said:
Eden all day long op for my money.

Bale doesn't do it nearly enough imo. He needs to step up and be consistently good.
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Have often do you watch Eden in the French League?
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How do you feel about us wanting bale mate? Think levy would let him go or is it another Chelsea/modric scenario?
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I think if he ends up moving to a premier league club it will be for a massive, massive fee.

Don't think Levy would let it happen any other way as he's 22, and is signed on till 2015. We've no reason to let him leave for less then we think he is worth.

From my point of view I'd rather see him play overseas if he must leave, personally I could understand the draw of playing for a team overseas facing completely new opposition week in week out and taking in a new culture. And I think Levy would be willing to accept a lower offer from a club abroad, with perhaps a player or two to sweeten things up if it's a club that Bale really is set on playing for. He's spoken about a desire to play abroad and I would understand if he wanted to fulfill this ambition.
 
fatbloke said:
Bale without a shadow of a doubt.

We've got enough players who can play the neat passing game and whilst I agree Hazard would fit in well with us, I think we need the different option Bale would give us. You only have to see how much of an impact a lightening quick, powerful, direct winger makes to United. And you only have to see how much of an impact a different tactical option gives you with the De Jong substitution yesterday. We simply have to get an old fashioned winger and Bale is the best in the world at what he does.
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Hazard can do pretty much anything Bale does (that one trick - kick and run) and much more..
 
Hazard for two reasons

1- More adaptable,better suited,potential superstar and another City legend.....
2- I wouldn't want the Spuds to have the steam off my piss.
 
Hazard just confirmed after his game tonight that the reports he was at The Etihad for the Manchester Derby are true.
 
IF Dzeko dosent leave, Imagine the service he would get next season with Bale n Hazard. Bale has a good cross.
 
brotherblue said:
IF Dzeko dosent leave, Imagine the service he would get next season with Bale n Hazard. Bale has a good cross.
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It izz impossible to sign both.
 
When comparing this one has to consider all the possibilities. Bale would add more width and crossing to our game than Hazzard. Hazzard will add more skill and defender attacking ability than Bale. Bale is a better shooter. Hazard has better vision and "perhaps" team play. (He is not there yet, but his skill set suggests he will get there). Bale will be better defensively and in terms of hussle help. Bale is faster and will be a better fast break option. Hazard is more versatile and can be moved around alot. I believe his eventual position isn't set yet. Bale's is.

Both will struggle initially. For Hazzard being in a knew league will be the reason, for Bale, joining a team that doesn't have him as the focal point will be the reason.

And for those who keep claiming Bale is a one trick pony, seriously, stop being silly. He certainly is not.

I'd choose Hazzard simply because I don't like the idea of taking another contender in the league's player. I'd rather we went to get our own players from none challenging teams, the lower division, the youth squad, and from foreign leagues.That way, the league stays competitive. Who will be the better player eventually? Potential suggests Hazard, but don't sleep on Bale. He has some rare qualities. 1) Raw Football speed, 2) a fantastic left foot, but most importantly, his greatest quality is his focus and humility. It is Messieque. He is all about football. And players like that get better all thru their career. I don't get that same sense from Hazard. He loves football and stardom equally. Now that is not a bad thing, but those who are all about football tend to succeed no matter what!

So I wouldn't dismiss Bale at all.

P.s: I still love Vertonghen :P and my new handle name when I am on the road is daxman. For some reason, my password doesn't work anywhere but on my Desktop at home. And I am out of town on a project for the next 8 months. :(

Couldn't log on for all the fun 5 week comeback.
 
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