Bale to consider future

[Andouble]

I'm no historian but I'd say 40 mil plus two players is something that's probably never happened and seems like it'd be a huge pain in the arse to sort out.

 

[Goo]

I'm not sure I want this to happen. Bale is a great winger, but apart from being a winger, there's not much else in his locker.

The way Mancini seems to have set up is to have an attack like this:

Nasri..........Tevez.........Silva
...............Aguero..............


(the names are merely a formality here by the way)

From what I've seen it seems Bobby has the 3 players behind the striker roaming and swapping places with each other all the time. If Silva is drawn to the right, then Nasri, or Tevez will go left, and then we'll try and penetrate through the middle.

Also The striker and whoever is behind the striker will change and swap (one-two passes) until there is a shot on goal.

With the Purchase of Hazard, we can still maintain this formula, but also have fantastic pace and crossing ability. From what I've seen Bale isn't as strong at creating unless he's on the wing. I'd rather have the multi-ability of Hazard.

As for getting both, I just can't see it. It would mean that so many regulars for us now would not be playing as often. No point upsetting the current harmony of the team which has put us top of the league.

Remember blues, the grass isn't always greener on the other side. Our squad is great as it is.

I'm still not convinced that "Width" is the answer to our problems anyway. It's just a nice "plan B" option. Hazard can do 'Plan A' and 'Plan B', Sorted.

My opinion of course.

Good post, and I agree.

I would take Bale, but not at the expense of Hazard.

Thanks.

I forgot to mention that if my arm was twisted to get two players who could play wide positions, I still wouldn't take Bale. I'd get Lavezzi for the same reason I posted above I'd take Hazard over Bale.

Although something I've been thinking about for a while is our ability to meet the "home grown" rule.

We still safe on that if we sold Johnson for Hazard?<br /><br />-- Fri May 04, 2012 1:28 am --<br /><br />

I'm no historian but I'd say 40 mil plus two players is something that's probably never happened and seems like it'd be a huge pain in the arse to sort out.

Yeah that's the Sun for you. That sort of deal would never happen, I expect.

 

[Blue Haze]

Although something I've been thinking about for a while is our ability to meet the "home grown" rule.

We still safe on that if we sold Johnson for Hazard?

I believe we have 9 homegrown players right now over 21.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2012/clubs/club=52919/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague ... index.html</a>

Think we need 8.

 

[Goo]

Although something I've been thinking about for a while is our ability to meet the "home grown" rule.

We still safe on that if we sold Johnson for Hazard?

I believe we have 9 homegrown players right now over 21.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2012/clubs/club=52919/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague ... index.html</a>

Think we need 8.

Great stuff, cheers for the link

 

[Ethan23]

.............Yaya..............
Hazard......Silva........Bale
.........Tevez...Aguero....

Realistic???

 

[CTIDANDREW]

.............Yaya..............
Hazard......Silva........Bale
.........Tevez...Aguero....

Realistic???

Take out Tevez and add Barry, or we would have three defenders. Unless that is what you were going for. Then just no.

 

[Seosa]

.............Yaya..............
Hazard......Silva........Bale
.........Tevez...Aguero....

Realistic???

Take out Tevez and add Barry, or we would have three defenders. Unless that is what you were going for. Then just no.

Wtf are you on about? 3 defenders? There'd be the usual 4 + Joe in goal.

 

[Jumanji]

Yaya is never guarding the back four by himself.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Would have this lad at all cost..

 

[Plaything of the gods]

How many games to win the CL, FA Cup and League Cup? A big worry, and justifying excuse for dropping out of the knockout cups this year, has been player exhaustion.

Bale AND Hazard AND ...

Gives flexibility of play and easy rotation. I saw a stat that City have used 24 players this season, United have used 31. That 24 included Savic, a disaster, and absentees Tevez and Balotelli. We need a larger quality squad to call on.

 

[MSP]

from glory-glory

Would be stupid to sell to our biggest rivals. We should have a policy that big players can only move to leave abroad.

lol

 

[MonsallBlue]

from glory-glory

Would be stupid to sell to our biggest rivals. We should have a policy that big players can only move to leave abroad.

lol

Didn't know Newcastle were in for Bale?? ;)

 

[Plaything of the gods]

I'm no historian but I'd say 40 mil plus two players is something that's probably never happened and seems like it'd be a huge pain in the arse to sort out.

The article said "£40m players-plus-cash deal" so I guess that £40m includes the value of the players.

 

[MSP]

If Hazard is coming, I don't see Bale happening... we can't play with 10 attacking players and some of big profile players would stay on the bench for lot of games. Can't see that happening so I call bollocks here.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

Bale is an awesome player,underated on here i think.I beleive he can move onto another level with the players we have around him and a proper tactician like Mancini guiding him.

Sign him.

 

[carlos tevez is a blue]

From Glory Glory

Originally Posted by Armchair Expert

I would take 50 million + Adebayor, Johnson & De Jong.

That would be one oalmighty deal. Never going to happen though.

That's difficult. A ton of money, a starter, a back up for both wings and another DM.

Wages might make that tough. I don't know what De Jong is on, I assume Johnson isn't on too much.

But of all the players, De Jong is probably the one we don't need. We have Parker and Sandro...

Johnson would be useful... Ade is probably the type of striker that best fits our requirements for a lone striker, he has his faults, but are there better strikers that we could get?



I think I'd rather trade him for Higuain, Sahin, Kaka, a CB (they were looking to sell Pepe in January, he's a very very technically skilled defender, with amazing passing, but his nasty streak and his overacting wreck him for me, if he behaved, then he's a £30 mil CB)... I don't know how much Real Madrid value all those players at, but:

World Class Striker - We need one, Higuain is one.

Kaka - Can play in VDV's position or on the wings. (Bale going would leave us one wing short.)

Pepe - The ball playing CB we need... He would have to behave though.

Sahin - Amazing young player.


Real Madrid are looking to sell 3 of those 4 and the other is Higuain and he wants to go. (Real Madrid just don't want him to.)

They might have changed their mind about Pepe, they did transfer list him in January although I don't think Mourinho wanted him to go. I can't remember him doing anything nasty since stepping on Messi's fingers. (He did argue with a referee, but that's not the same.)


Yes, Kaka isn't the player he was at AC Milan, but he has been very very very good this season. He's 30. That Harry Redknapp magic should work on Kaka?


The other option for CB is Carvahlo, but he has gone downhill rapidly this season. He's 33 anyway, so isn't a long term option. Pepe is 29.

Higuain is only 24. Sahin is 23.


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Of course, we could just keep Bale, spend our entire transfer kitty on those Real Madrid players, hope we don't end up tripling our wage bill and try to win the league? Just a dream? :P

 

[MSP]

he might be underrated here but for numbers circulating with his name in media rumors, he's heavily overrated.

I've read somewhere that Barcelona laughed when Lewi mentioned the price. Anyone in their right mind would when 40-50 millions price is thrown.

There's no more than 4-5 players that are worth that price and Bale certainly is not one of them. Wouldn't pay penny more of 30 mills for him. And that's generous offer. Players market is just mad these days..

 

[Blue Haze]

From Glory Glory

Originally Posted by Armchair Expert

I would take 50 million + Adebayor, Johnson & De Jong.

That would be one oalmighty deal. Never going to happen though.

That's difficult. A ton of money, a starter, a back up for both wings and another DM.

Wages might make that tough. I don't know what De Jong is on, I assume Johnson isn't on too much.

But of all the players, De Jong is probably the one we don't need. We have Parker and Sandro...

Johnson would be useful... Ade is probably the type of striker that best fits our requirements for a lone striker, he has his faults, but are there better strikers that we could get?



I think I'd rather trade him for Higuain, Sahin, Kaka, a CB (they were looking to sell Pepe in January, he's a very very technically skilled defender, with amazing passing, but his nasty streak and his overacting wreck him for me, if he behaved, then he's a £30 mil CB)... I don't know how much Real Madrid value all those players at, but:

World Class Striker - We need one, Higuain is one.

Kaka - Can play in VDV's position or on the wings. (Bale going would leave us one wing short.)

Pepe - The ball playing CB we need... He would have to behave though.

Sahin - Amazing young player.


Real Madrid are looking to sell 3 of those 4 and the other is Higuain and he wants to go. (Real Madrid just don't want him to.)

They might have changed their mind about Pepe, they did transfer list him in January although I don't think Mourinho wanted him to go. I can't remember him doing anything nasty since stepping on Messi's fingers. (He did argue with a referee, but that's not the same.)


Yes, Kaka isn't the player he was at AC Milan, but he has been very very very good this season. He's 30. That Harry Redknapp magic should work on Kaka?


The other option for CB is Carvahlo, but he has gone downhill rapidly this season. He's 33 anyway, so isn't a long term option. Pepe is 29.

Higuain is only 24. Sahin is 23.


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Of course, we could just keep Bale, spend our entire transfer kitty on those Real Madrid players, hope we don't end up tripling our wage bill and try to win the league? Just a dream? :P

Was laughing my arse off reading that. Maybe Tottenham can raid Bayern when they finish off Madrid.

 

[MSP]

what moron you have to be to think you can get Higuain, Kaka, Sahin and Pepe for Bale.

 

[sincity]

nope, dont want him even if we don't get Hazard..
one, there are better players out there
two, don't want to deal with those manipulative bastards, Bale is overhyped.

and imo, Adebayor is worth 18-20mil based on current trends, for the 16 goals he has scored for them, instead of the 8-10mil they're trying to get him from us. Ade has been marketed badly and they know we're desperate to get rid of him, it leaves us at a disadvantage during negotiations.
Considering they're willing to pay anything to get Hazard on their team, they surely must have enough money to pay Ade wages..