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greasedupdeafguy said:
Marvin said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
I'm pretty sure most United fans would disagree with you, Wellbeck might not score that often but his overall play his excellent and much better than the other two you have mentioned.
Some might, but I know a few who say he can't finish. Odemwingie is a top player who has achieved more than Welbeck to date. Just because he is at WBA now, doesn't mean he's an average player. The Premiership attracts top players to "middling" clubs. aNOTHER EXAMPLE Sessegnon
Odemwingie has won nowt in his career decent player nothing more also he is 31 not sure why you seem to rate him so much.

Agreed. Can't hold down a place in a baggies side that will probably finish mid table - ish and his only known suitors are the side rooted at the foot of the league. Come on Marvin...............
 
Milan is his boyhood club.

Sky Sports News are not very often wrong, if they say there is talks then there is.
 
ACMilan said:
Blue Haze said:
ACMilan said:
In fairness, He scored some huge goals for you. And some vital assists.
Maybe we can say the appetizers and dessert were great but the main course was overcooked?


He will have a good game. You think Mario finally has his shit together, and he will fulfill his potential. Then he plays anonymous for 2 months. Then he's dropped, sulks, etc. for a few weeks until Dzeko's has a shocker and Mario gets another chance. Repeat this over and over for 2.5 seasons now.

It's like a neverending cocktease. At some point you realise that what you expected will never happen.


Well, it's a risk Milan needs to take.
Thing is, we seem to be going in a 'new' direction at Milan in terms of buying young players who respect "the shirt". I imagine Berlu/Galliani had a real 'sitdown' with Mario to gauge where his head is at.
If he comes here and blows it, it'll kill me. I fully expect him to come here and still be a bit of a pain in the ass/badboy, but to also give it full tilt like he does for Italy.
It'll be amazing to watch nonetheless
With all due respect, the guys that played for the shirt are gone..even though they were old. Balo might support milan but theres nobody bigger than mario in his world. Hope he succeeds at milan but it wont be plain sailing..be prepared for tassoti possibly having to slap him in training.
 
ACMilan said:
Can I ask an honest question?

What was it like in here when Mario put in that performance vs Germany? The responses I mean? Im interested

He was gonna tear the Premership apart, it was his "Ronaldo moment" he was better than Zlatgod.
 
Gazzetta says talks for the day have ended and we're still £2.5million apart. Hope it's a long time until we have to deal with Milan again.
 
I knew about Odemwingie before he came to the Premiership. he's been a top player for many years, and he has done very well in the Premiership. Scored 25 League goals in his first 2 seasons at a struggling team.

I bet you turned your nose at Stephen Fletcher when he left Wolves

There are good players, very good players at mid-table and even struggling clubs.
 
Kun Aguero said:
ACMilan said:
Can I ask an honest question?

What was it like in here when Mario put in that performance vs Germany? The responses I mean? Im interested

He was gonna tear the Premership apart, it was his "Ronaldo moment" he was better than Zlatgod.

LOL, ya.
To be fair, the only moment that ever rivaled Italy's WC win and Milan's CL wins, was seeing that second goal v Germany. It gives me shivers just thinking about it
 
LoveCity said:
Gazzetta says talks for the day have ended and we're still £2.5million apart. Hope it's a long time until we have to deal with Milan again.
Surprise surprise A.C Milan pissing us about again!!!!.We should walk away from A.C Milan and say where not going to do any transfer deals ever again.Total piss takers
 
moomba said:
NipHolmes said:
Last Jan we tried and failed to sell Carlos.

And if we did that and didnt replace him would we have won the league.

To be honest I wouldn't like us to have 3 strikers instead of 4 but I'd sooner have space and cash waiting for top player rather than keep Mario and try and sell in summer. I'd be genuinely staggered to see us sign a top player this window with so little time to go.

We're not going to agree on whether its stupid or not to leave a space in the squad during a title run in so we can maybe sign someone eight months later. I think it is, you obviously think otherwise.

Our board want to slash wages from fringe players and that doesn't fit a criteria of 4 big strikers. As said in post after yours we need to do what others do. Few world class players and a few young fringe players. Cavani and Aguero would be our main players and Guidetti and Pozo the young lads down the line when Tevez goes maybe? That's surely the long term vision? Having 4 players with wages in 150+ k brackets isn't viable anymore.

No evidence to suggest that's the case.

Castles wrote a piece about our boards intentions to cut wage bill. Having 4 players + Guidetti isn't viable, not when all players are on 150+ pw, over 200k in both Argentines cases.

You don't get top players in Jan, not unless you get bent over which our board won't do, see Hazard deal.

Real get by with 2 strikers plus the odd Ronaldo fill in. I don't feel its s stretch to hope that 3 strikers fill in the role of 1 striker (4231). We should sign a wide atm player which frees Tevez up and we are lacking anyway hence why I and others said Isco or alternative.

Chelsea won the CL with Drogba and a poor Torres, Anelka played wide. United went to wire with us with no RVP. I don't get this absolutely dire need for 4 strikers. Guidetti will most likely be available for the run in. Dzeko has moaned about lack of game time and thats without Mario even playing. As I said, I'm not worrying.

Regarding would we have won title, who knows? You can't see either as fact. IMO yes but its a guess.
 
Marvin said:
I knew about Odemwingie before he came to the Premiership. he's been a top player for many years, and he has done very well in the Premiership. Scored 25 League goals in his first 2 seasons at a struggling team.

I bet you turned your nose at Stephen Fletcher when he left Wolves

There are good players, very good players at mid-table and even struggling clubs.
I dont get it. Are you seriously saying you want oh-dem-wingies at a club chasing the league?
 
NipHolmes said:
Marvin said:
NipHolmes said:
Firstly we aren't talking about Balotelli hence why I said stop it.

Secondly I don't rate Garcia, he won't be world class and he's levels below Busquets and De Rossi whom are the level of player required. He's too slow and plays a safe pass whereas we need service from deep with a killer ball. Take Yayas assist the other day where he cut hole through team. Take Gerrard to Suarez too. That's what we need more of, not a slow player who passes sideways. He will hopefully do well for us but I'm clear on this, he isn't what we need and won't be a top player.

Then we have Jack Rodwell injured incessantly unfortunately, a lesson not learned from his time at Everton.

Then we have Sinclair, less said about that the better.

Then we have Maicon, a player who's been sliding for a few seasons and a luxury signing we simply needn't have had.

So tell me where I'm wrong and tell me what I'm supposedly upto please. You have a paranoid complex and your out of order. You snape me for no reason, are yet to still not to have apologized and still continue your hate. Rather pathetic imo.
We try to get to where Barca are, but you can't get there in one jump

You do players like Garcia and Rodwell a big dis-service. Garcia has been playing very well, and why not give Rodwell a chance?

We paid more for Garcia than Barca did for Song, that's my problem. Songs a better passer and prem suited. Maybe his head was at Barca but we signed an inferior player again. Barca have Mascherano to call on too.

Rodwell needs to be fit to be given a chance. I won't hold injuries against any player because its not their fault but I do have a problem with signing an injury prone player for 12m. It pains me to type this and I get no joy I tell you that fucking now. But spending 30m on Garcia and Rodwell and paying around 120k in wages for them both is painful. I see Vidal, I see Song, I see Fellaini. All alternatives to De Rossi and for less money than we spent on those two, beggars belief it really is.

I said this in summer, not now. I called it then and the happy clapping York away massive hammered me. Well I get no joy from being right but I am aren't I? Maicon and Rodwell haven't really done anything except be injured and Sinclair meh. Nightmare!
Makes me feel sick tbh hopefully the 2 ex Barce guys will stop these types of things from happening. Imo Fernandinho is the type of midfielder we need very similar to Ramires and would give us some pace which need in Europe. Vidal would be my first choice as he is world class but Juventus would never sell.
 
Marvin said:
I knew about Odemwingie before he came to the Premiership. he's been a top player for many years, and he has done very well in the Premiership. Scored 25 League goals in his first 2 seasons at a struggling team.

I bet you turned your nose at Stephen Fletcher when he left Wolves

There are good players, very good players at mid-table and even struggling clubs.
I always liked Jarvis as a squad player. Fantastic at Wolves.

I liked Hoilett too as a squad player. Carried Blackburn last year.
 
winchamblue said:
mancmackem said:
Guidetti needs to get fit quickly to have any influence on a title run in. I think he is good enough, and it's positive that he made a start for the EDS recently.
Guidetti is a carthorse, he'll never make it in the first team.

A carthorse doesn't score above 20 goals in his first season in the Dutch league.

Maybe Andy Carroll is a better example of a carthorse.
 
guidetti needs to get fit and lose about 3 stone before we even talk about him being fit to lace marios boots nevermind replace him
 
foley87 said:
guidetti needs to get fit and lose about 3 stone before we even talk about him being fit to lace marios boots nevermind replace him

He is carrying a lot of timber. Sad to say but I think he isn't going to be ready until next season now. Throw him into as many EDS/reserve friendlies as possible up until the season end and then re-evaluate. The summer has got to be shit or bust with Guidetti now, he must be as pissed off as us at not having a chance in the first team due to injury and loans.
 
NipHolmes said:
oakiecokie said:
NipHolmes said:
Sinclair and Maicon?

Rodwell was a bad call based on injuries, anyone could have said this. As I said, my.inbox, cluttering the thread isn't good, stop it.

I`m quite happy to do it in public sunshine as it shows you up for what you are.People were slagging a certain defensive midfielder,who has now shown how good he can be given a run,so why not the above two that you quote.

Firstly we aren't talking about Balotelli hence why I said stop it.

Secondly I don't rate Garcia, he won't be world class and he's levels below Busquets and De Rossi whom are the level of player required. He's too slow and plays a safe pass whereas we need service from deep with a killer ball. Take Yayas assist the other day where he cut hole through team. Take Gerrard to Suarez too. That's what we need more of, not a slow player who passes sideways. He will hopefully do well for us but I'm clear on this, he isn't what we need and won't be a top player.

Then we have Jack Rodwell injured incessantly unfortunately, a lesson not learned from his time at Everton.

Then we have Sinclair, less said about that the better.

Then we have Maicon, a player who's been sliding for a few seasons and a luxury signing we simply needn't have had.

So tell me where I'm wrong and tell me what I'm supposedly upto please. You have a paranoid complex and your out of order. You snape me for no reason, are yet to still not to have apologized and still continue your hate. Rather pathetic imo.

Not allowed to say that about Garcia apparently
"English football fan mentality"
agree with everything you said though summed up our summer signings well.
 
NipHolmes said:
oakiecokie said:
NipHolmes said:
Sinclair and Maicon?

Rodwell was a bad call based on injuries, anyone could have said this. As I said, my.inbox, cluttering the thread isn't good, stop it.

I`m quite happy to do it in public sunshine as it shows you up for what you are.People were slagging a certain defensive midfielder,who has now shown how good he can be given a run,so why not the above two that you quote.

Firstly we aren't talking about Balotelli hence why I said stop it.

Secondly I don't rate Garcia, he won't be world class and he's levels below Busquets and De Rossi whom are the level of player required. He's too slow and plays a safe pass whereas we need service from deep with a killer ball. Take Yayas assist the other day where he cut hole through team. Take Gerrard to Suarez too. That's what we need more of, not a slow player who passes sideways. He will hopefully do well for us but I'm clear on this, he isn't what we need and won't be a top player.

Then we have Jack Rodwell injured incessantly unfortunately, a lesson not learned from his time at Everton.

Then we have Sinclair, less said about that the better.

Then we have Maicon, a player who's been sliding for a few seasons and a luxury signing we simply needn't have had.

So tell me where I'm wrong and tell me what I'm supposedly upto please. You have a paranoid complex and your out of order. You snape me for no reason, are yet to still not to have apologized and still continue your hate. Rather pathetic imo.

So just to reiterate,you are claiming that Balo is a world class player??????? Now you know why I don`t need to have a discussion via a PM. Bbbbwwwaaaaaaa.
 
oakiecokie said:
NipHolmes said:
oakiecokie said:
I`m quite happy to do it in public sunshine as it shows you up for what you are.People were slagging a certain defensive midfielder,who has now shown how good he can be given a run,so why not the above two that you quote.

Firstly we aren't talking about Balotelli hence why I said stop it.

Secondly I don't rate Garcia, he won't be world class and he's levels below Busquets and De Rossi whom are the level of player required. He's too slow and plays a safe pass whereas we need service from deep with a killer ball. Take Yayas assist the other day where he cut hole through team. Take Gerrard to Suarez too. That's what we need more of, not a slow player who passes sideways. He will hopefully do well for us but I'm clear on this, he isn't what we need and won't be a top player.

Then we have Jack Rodwell injured incessantly unfortunately, a lesson not learned from his time at Everton.

Then we have Sinclair, less said about that the better.

Then we have Maicon, a player who's been sliding for a few seasons and a luxury signing we simply needn't have had.

So tell me where I'm wrong and tell me what I'm supposedly upto please. You have a paranoid complex and your out of order. You snape me for no reason, are yet to still not to have apologized and still continue your hate. Rather pathetic imo.
 

Firstly we aren't talking about Balotelli hence why I said stop it.

Secondly I don't rate Garcia, he won't be world class and he's levels below Busquets and De Rossi whom are the level of player required. He's too slow and plays a safe pass whereas we need service from deep with a killer ball. Take Yayas assist the other day where he cut hole through team. Take Gerrard to Suarez too. That's what we need more of, not a slow player who passes sideways. He will hopefully do well for us but I'm clear on this, he isn't what we need and won't be a top player.

Then we have Jack Rodwell injured incessantly unfortunately, a lesson not learned from his time at Everton.

Then we have Sinclair, less said about that the better.

Then we have Maicon, a player who's been sliding for a few seasons and a luxury signing we simply needn't have had.

So tell me where I'm wrong and tell me what I'm supposedly upto please. You have a paranoid complex and your out of order. You snape me for no reason, are yet to still not to have apologized and still continue your hate. Rather pathetic imo

And I`m supposed to have a paranoid complex,yet you continue to slag off all our summer buys,even though most of them havn`t had a decent run in the first team to show their worth ??
Taxi for .................................. paronia man !!
 
oakiecokie said:
oakiecokie said:
NipHolmes said:
Firstly we aren't talking about Balotelli hence why I said stop it.

Secondly I don't rate Garcia, he won't be world class and he's levels below Busquets and De Rossi whom are the level of player required. He's too slow and plays a safe pass whereas we need service from deep with a killer ball. Take Yayas assist the other day where he cut hole through team. Take Gerrard to Suarez too. That's what we need more of, not a slow player who passes sideways. He will hopefully do well for us but I'm clear on this, he isn't what we need and won't be a top player.

Then we have Jack Rodwell injured incessantly unfortunately, a lesson not learned from his time at Everton.

Then we have Sinclair, less said about that the better.

Then we have Maicon, a player who's been sliding for a few seasons and a luxury signing we simply needn't have had.

So tell me where I'm wrong and tell me what I'm supposedly upto please. You have a paranoid complex and your out of order. You snape me for no reason, are yet to still not to have apologized and still continue your hate. Rather pathetic imo.
Hope you all read through these in a few months
 
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