Bank of England.....my arse !!

You may wish to look up the definition of the word ‘historically’ as it’s cheap compared to historical rates, which is exactly what I said.

It’s still below the mean average rate from 1900-2008:

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Haha, true but, what relevance has this statement got to our current economy. Very little if any. The last time rates were significantly higher than this was 30 years ago. A generation ago.
 
I still think it's bullshit, for me it does more harm, especially for the average Joe Bloggs
We’ll have to agree to disagree then buddy. I’ve spent a lifetime studying this stuff and it’s shit I know and it’s a hand grenade is a hostage situation, but literally the only way to reduce inflation is for people to stop fucking spending so that companies stop raising prices.

Interest rate increases ensure that. The BoE have raised again when I wouldn’t have (based on the latest inflation data) but the U.K. is an inflationary outlier (compared to other G7 countries) so they’re wanting to rein it in as soon as possible.
 
"I'm very aware that this is difficult for households. But we've got to get inflation back down to the target now," Mr Bailey said.

"I think it will come down quite substantially by the end of the year. We've got more to do next year and we will do it."

The government has set an inflation target of 2% - but it currently sits nearly four times that at 7.9%.

"I'm very conscious of that we've had some very big shocks in the economy, which obviously affected inflation. The thing I would say actually, though, interestingly, is that the economy has been very much more resilient than we feared it would be," he added.

"Energy prices have come down which is which has helped in that the economy has been more resilient.

"Interest rates are having their effect. They aren't being restrictive in that sense. They are restricting inflation bringing it down," he said.
 
More reasoning …


"If you have wages go up by 7.7% a year, then it's rather difficult to see how you can have price inflation of only 2% a year," he says.

"Unemployment is not quite at a record low, but it's a historically low figure and that's one of the factors pushing up on wage growth,"

UK Finance said arrears and possessions are at low levels and the number of households behind on their payments this year is expected to stay at below 1% of outstanding mortgages.
I’m well aware of what they’re saying matey and I agree with some of their reasoning although Bluemoon won’t for a second. I still think they raised rates this time when they didn’t have to although I understand (though don’t necessarily agree) with the theory behind it.
 
"The 15% interest rate was only done momentarily to protect Sterling same as selling all the foreign reserves in 1992, it was 15% for real though at the start of that decade."

Exactly what I said. It was on its way down in 1992 and the 15% shown is 1989/90.

Bank of England base rate 1979-2017​

Bank rate at year end (%)*
197917
198014
198114.375
198210
19839.0625
19849.5
198511.375
198610.875
19878.375
198812.875
198914.875
199013.875
199110.375
19926.875
19935.375
19946.125
19956.375
19965.9375
19977.25
19986.25
19995.5
20006
20014
20024
20033.75
20044.75
20054.5
20065
20075.5
20082
20090.5
20100.5
20110.5
20120.5
20130.5
20140.5
20150.5
20160.25
20170.5
20180.75
20200.25
20200.10
20210.25
20220.5
20220.75
Not sure why you posted that. I’ve already posted the graph where as you posted data points from year end which is like posting my graph, just with less info and making it harder to read and see the patterns.
 
Haha, true but, what relevance has this statement got to our current economy. Very little if any. The last time rates were significantly higher than this was 30 years ago. A generation ago.
It’s at the same level it was 19 years ago and it has the same relevance now that it’s always had.

Money was cheap from 2008-2021. It’s now more expensive (but still less than mean average post industrialisation). People need to get used to this being the norm and act and spend accordingly.

Great news for savers, less great for those living on credit.

For the record, I’m neither upset not gleeful by this (be grateful your mortgage isn’t 14% like my “main” house in South Africa), I’m just trying to give context because it’s lacking in this thread.
 
I've fixed 10 years at 4.5%

the 2 years and 5 years would have meant extra £600-700 a month

so it forced my hand.
 
The problem is that you think debt at 5.75% is expensive when it’s actually historically very cheap. You thought sub 2% interest would last forever (rather than it being the absolute exception that it was).
People got used to low interest rates and forgot this point. Those long enough in the tooth will remember the ERM shitshow in the 1990's - where mortgage rates were c.17%!!!
 
Not sure why you posted that. I’ve already posted the graph where as you posted data points from year end which is like posting my graph, just with less info and making it harder to read and see the patterns.
I assumed you had misread the graph.
 

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