Benefit Street on Channel 4

The money for looking after others is 80% upwards spent on pensioners. Why? They're old and fucking useless, cull the bastards at 75. The country would be miles better off.

I think if an old **** has any children they should be looked after by them not the state it would save a fortune. If you don't step up to the plate and look after those who gave you life you go to prison.
 
pinkwheeltrim said:
RandomJ said:
mcmanus said:
Well if they are the winners I'd hate to see the losers.

I really don't know who are the winners or losers sometimes. I know people who choose this life style, lazy, dodgey scruffy ***** who are always struggling to get by but they seem far happier than I do as I have to drag myself out of bed every morning, to sit in an hours traffic to get to a job I hate with people i can't stand then another hours traffic and home to have dinner then bed to repeat the whole cycle. I may have more money than they do but I have no spare time and I'm a lot less happier than they are. Maybe they are the winners.


But that's your fault, not theirs! Threads like this always throw up working class heroes who seem hell bent on blaming others for their shit lives. If you hate your job so much, get another one, it's piss easy apparently.....oh wait!

So you believe in personal responsibility for those in work, but not for those living off the state?
 
Rocket-footed kolarov said:
pinkwheeltrim said:
RandomJ said:
I really don't know who are the winners or losers sometimes. I know people who choose this life style, lazy, dodgey scruffy ***** who are always struggling to get by but they seem far happier than I do as I have to drag myself out of bed every morning, to sit in an hours traffic to get to a job I hate with people i can't stand then another hours traffic and home to have dinner then bed to repeat the whole cycle. I may have more money than they do but I have no spare time and I'm a lot less happier than they are. Maybe they are the winners.


But that's your fault, not theirs! Threads like this always throw up working class heroes who seem hell bent on blaming others for their shit lives. If you hate your job so much, get another one, it's piss easy apparently.....oh wait!

Spot on. If they really are the winners, why don't these people that moan on about them quit their jobs and go and sign on instead?

Maybe because they have families to provide for and are not scrounging twats. I'd love nothing more than to quit my shit job tomorrow and sit on my arse in my pants all day watching Jeremy Kyle or play some Playstation but then some other poor hard working bastard would just be paying for me then which isn't fair. The benefits system is supposed to be a safety net not a life style choice.
 
mindmyp's_n_q's said:
Rocket-footed kolarov said:
Spot on. If they really are the winners, why don't these people that moan on about them quit their jobs and go and sign on instead?

I would guess because their mentality does not allow it. I could not be happy living the life that they do. However I can fully appreciate that they (with their own views and opinions) could be very happy living like that.

Yeah because £56 a week if under 25 or £72 if over is living a Life of Riley innit ?
 
It's a real fucking shame that genuine poor people whether out of work , low paid, disabled or lowskilled etc are lumped in with scumbags who rob and fiddle their benefits. There is no need for it and most people realise that benefits are so low that a life of Riley is simply not possible.


It's the twats claiming thousands a week by fraud that need sorting out. Those who live on benefits in a life of misery are to be pitied.

If must be depressing.
 
creatividad said:
I dislike the Mail as much as anybody! I think I should clarify my point. I'm saying that the Fabians have always worked hand in hand with the powers of international high finance, while cleverly disguising themselves as a workers' movement. The Labour Party has always had deep links with Fabian Socialism:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.labour.org.uk/ed-miliband-speech-fabian-one-nation-labour-change" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.labour.org.uk/ed-miliband-sp ... our-change</a>

The Society was one of the original founders of the Labour Party and is constitutionally affiliated to the party as a Socialist Society:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.fabians.org.uk/about/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.fabians.org.uk/about/</a>

Workers in the UK are struggling because of high housing costs (artificially inflated by housing benefit, an obvious social engineering scheme, since you are NOT allowed to build your own home in the countryside due to those old 1940s land laws; your housing prospects are limited to a cartel), and high government debts, which lead to inflation.

Everything is tied up, with socialists and bankers working together. You're definitely right that the poor end up losing the most. In this case, the Tories want to cut back, but they can't cut back on housing benefit too much, or pensions, so obviously the genuine struggling unemployed and disabled end up being targeted. Despicable really, but to be expected...

I only see a couple of solutions. 1) Elect a radical party to implement a different system altogether. We know this isn't going to happen! Or 2) Separate from the current system, and fight the battle on a cultural level. For me, a low impact lifestyle in the Welsh or Scottish countryside looks more and more appealing as time goes by. You just learn to find a method of self-employment, working at the end of a broadband connection (good job they are finally getting kitted out up there with fibre and 4G). Put some solar panels up for much lower energy bills. Use credit unions or a sensible bank or building society like Nationwide, don't use RBS or HSBC. Boycott Tesco, Amazon and all of those naughty multinationals that disrespect their customers (us) so badly. Look at how to get your cost of living down, rather than earning more.

I'm not saying any of those are 'The Answer' but it's a start, it's the kind of thinking that's needed. All the little transactions and things people do everyday, can be done differently. It all adds up. Sounds a bit idealistic but I can't think of any alternatives.

Housing benefit at one end and Help To Buy & Funding For Lending at the other. Meanwhile the population grows while planning laws restrict the number of new houses that can be built. All examples of state intervention using taxpayers' money by politicians to help out their bankster chums in return for fat directorships handed out to ex MPs.

Where Gordon Brown led, George Osbourne has followed. Until people stop voting Labour, Conservative and Lib Dems, politicians will work for financiers and not for the man on the street.
 
mcmanus said:
The money for looking after others is 80% upwards spent on pensioners. Why? They're old and fucking useless, cull the bastards at 75. The country would be miles better off.

Better still introduce compulsory euthanasia for retiring public sector workers.
 
mancityvstoke said:
"Conservative minister Iain Duncan Smith has told people in the south Wales town of Merthyr Tydfil they have become static and should seek work in Cardiff.

The work and pensions secretary suggested unemployed people "get on a bus" to find work.

The former Tory leader claimed people were unaware they could take a one-hour bus journey to Cardiff for work.

Labour politicians and unions said it echoed 1980s Tory minister Lord Tebbit's "get on your bike" comments.

The Public and Commercial Services Union said his remarks amounted to a "disgusting insult" to the unemployed.

Huw Lewis, Labour AM for Merthyr, said: "The parallels with the equally disgraceful 'on yer bike' comments from Norman Tebbit in the 1980s are there for all to see.

"That generation of Conservatives thought unemployment was the fault of the unemployed and with every action and utterance from this Government, it is clear that they are the true inheritors of that tradition."

That;s the power of love..
 

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