Better Call Saul

[west didsblue]

Same, I think it is a bit like Nolan's works, better the second time and pick up on a lot more that either doesnt make sense at the time or is just missed out.

My issue was the two filler omaha episodes. I think they were meant to give the audience a pace break, give the feeling of time passing. And they always said they wanted the same number of episodes as BB, so filled a bit. But I just felt they could have been completely omitted, and launced straight into the final 2 and it wouldn't have made the slightest bit of difference.

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I think it was simply to show that Gene/Saul had descended into a character with very few redeeming features and little sympathy from the audience so that when he takes responsibility for his actions in court in the last episode it’s more of a surprise.

 

[Coatigan]

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I think it was simply to show that Gene/Saul had descended into a character with very few redeeming features and little sympathy from the audience so that when he takes responsibility for his actions in court in the last episode it’s more of a surprise.

True, although I think that much could have beem concluded from the penultinate episodes, and all the black and white interdispersed scenes before.

 

[Bluemanc100]

Enjoyed the whole series and the last episode... I was surprised but enjoyed it all the same

 

[Coatigan]

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My only minor issue with the final series was Saul’s and even more so Kim’s obsession with bringing down Howard. I get why he didn’t like him and the prossie thing at his business meeting was both in character and entertaining viewing. But the way it then dominated a large chunk of the series, I thought was a bit of overkill and not particularly convincing.

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I would say writing and developing such good new characters that are not in BB was not really the hard part. Writing them out if it was. And with Kim it was extra hard because they had to write her out while still keeping her there.

From early on it was known she would disappear at some point. The more she grew into a character the more worried we would have all felt. For me there was only ever a number of ways they could have done it. Tragic death, going into hiding, or Jimmy going too far or doing something terrible that pushes her away. Right up until almost the end, all three were still on the table.

And that's what I think they did so well. She mostly does it all herself, she pushes herself away. She gets drawn in and goes too far, and bever really blames Jimmy. She had to get to a point of realisation she couldn't this. But first she had to see what 'this' was, and the Howard obsession was that.

I really like that, unlike WW's wife, she never really got to hate, or even stop loving Jimmy. He never did anything tbad enough to push her away, that relationship was still there, but all around them was too much. I think it was an important sub-plot with a significant breaking point.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Same, I think it is a bit like Nolan's works, better the second time and pick up on a lot more that either doesnt make sense at the time or is just missed out.

My issue was the two filler omaha episodes. I think they were meant to give the audience a pace break, give the feeling of time passing. And they always said they wanted the same number of episodes as BB, so filled a bit. But I just felt they could have been completely omitted, and launced straight into the final 2 and it wouldn't have made the slightest bit of difference.

Wholly disagree. Those Omaha episodes were brilliant and integral to the story. Essentially despite his fake life on the run and quiet job, he can't help being a thieving conman bastard, and this is what ultimately leads to his undoing. They could not have omitted they were crucial

 

[BlueHammer85]

Wholly disagree. Those Omaha episodes were brilliant and integral to the story. Essentially despite his fake life on the run and quiet job, he can't help being a thieving conman bastard, and this is what ultimately leads to his undoing. They could not have omitted they were crucial

Agreed , it’s him being his old self again. Shows he can’t shop himself being a conman

 

[Stephen230]

I just watched the film, that I’ve never got round to watching before now.

Very enjoyable and brilliantly acted by the guy who played Jesse.

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But basically just two hours of not a lot to tell me that he’d relocated to Alaska, which I knew anyway.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

True, although I think that much could have beem concluded from the penultinate episodes, and all the black and white interdispersed scenes before.

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Also, the episodes with Marion are crucial because it shows that Gene partly committed the theft crimes and the dept store theft in order to blackmail Jeff into silence, because he felt he had to. Jeff had recognised him from his Saul days and threatened his new life in hiding. So, Gene kind of returns to crime in order to escape past ones, indicating how he was trapped in a way. Seems these things went over your head a bit?

 

[Coatigan]

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Also, the episodes with Marion are crucial because it shows that Gene partly committed the theft crimes and the dept store theft in order to blackmail Jeff into silence, because he felt he had to. Jeff had recognised him from his Saul days and threatened his new life in hiding. So, Gene kind of returns to crime in order to escape past ones, indicating how he was trapped in a way. Seems these things went over your head a bit?

Dickhead line at the end pal. Well done on shitting on an otherwise good post.

 

[hilts]

If anyone is unable to use or find the spoiler button, a simple way is to start your post by typing out this (without spaces, as otherwise it wouldnt be visible in this post) and end with the same but a forward slash (and no spaces).


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It pisses me off no end when people spoil it for others in the TV series and movie thread but wtf would anyone be thinking coming into a specific thread like this and wanting spoilers?