Bony (Season long loan at Stoke - Official)

[J_Bow]

Selling him in January would be very bad, you cannot be sure of Aguero staying fit and there's no way Pellegrini would play Iheanacho regularly. Sterling/De Bruyne/Silva can all play as a centre forward but would be more withdrawn and make us terrible.

I liked Wilf at Swansea, though like Dzeko he doesn't fit how we play our best football; Quick, incisive passing and movement. I honestly think Iheanacho is better for us than Wilf right now, has the right attributes.

 

[MadchesterCity]

Should get rid and allow Iheanacheo to prosper, frustrates the life out of me tbh

 

[warpig]

Do not laugh, but I have been told Chelsea have made an offer for Bony.

Player wants regular game time which he knows he won't get/club have accepted he will not fit into our style of play.

 

[itisrising]

You said with De Bruyne, Silva, Sterling etc "we'll be fine for goals" but then I gave an example, which you then backed up, that we struggled to score with all those players for a painstakingly enough time.

My point is it's never as easy to say "x, y and z and we're fine" hence why I would prefer more options, or better options in the form of replacing someone like Bony.

We may have played with Jimmy and Pozo up front and won a handful of games but come the end of the season we won nothing of note.

That had nothing to do with our forward options though. I was just highlighting a system with no out and out attackers has worked before.

I did say we'll be fine for goals and I stick to that. Our away woes aren't to do with not having the quality on the field but, rather, a leaky defence and tactical mistakes. We have one of the best strikers in world football so clearly having more forwards isn't the answer. If we can't do it with one of the best, we're equally unlikely to do with other options.

Saying that, a big target man will always allow us to change our set-up and change our system. However, there's a distinct lack of technically brilliant big men in world football.

 

[itisrising]

Do not laugh, but I have been told Chelsea have made an offer for Bony.

Player wants regular game time which he knows he won't get/club have accepted he will not fit into our style of play.

Swap deal with Hazard plus 25m. No way we're letting our prized striker go for anything less than he's worth.

 

[pudge]

That had nothing to do with our forward options though. I was just highlighting a system with no out and out attackers has worked before.

I did say we'll be fine for goals and I stick to that. Our away woes aren't to do with not having the quality on the field but, rather, a leaky defence and tactical mistakes. We have one of the best strikers in world football so clearly having more forwards isn't the answer. If we can't do it with one of the best, we're equally unlikely to do with other options.

Saying that, a big target man will always allow us to change our set-up and change our system. However, there's a distinct lack of technically brilliant big men in world football.

4 of the last 6, we scored 0 goals. 3 over the course of all 6.

Aguero missed some of those and Bony was given the responsibility. As you have even said he doesn't suit us, so I would prefer to replace him with someone who does and if we did have more and better options, do you think we'd fail to score in 4 of them?

I should note, league wise.

 

[g180aj]

Do not laugh, but I have been told Chelsea have made an offer for Bony.

Player wants regular game time which he knows he won't get/club have accepted he will not fit into our style of play.

If he goes to Chelsea then they pay what he cost us £25 million as far as I'm concerned though Swansea can have him for £20 Million.

 

[itisrising]

4 of the last 6, we scored 0 goals. 3 over the course of all 6.

Aguero missed some of those and Bony was given the responsibility. As you have even said he doesn't suit us, so I would prefer to replace him with someone who does and if we did have someone better to replace Aguero with in that stretch of games, do you think we'd fail to score in 4 of them?

I should note, league wise.

Nacho man? Maybe him actually getting a shot would help turn things around?

The issue really was our inability to create and deal with a high-pressing team.

 

[pudge]

Nacho man? Maybe him actually getting a shot would help turn things around?

The issue really was our inability to create and deal with a high-pressing team.

Again though you said with De Bruyne, Silva and Sterling we'd be fine, it's their first priority to create, they didn't then in your eyes and we weren't fine for goals.

Iheanacho did get a shot at home to Norwich as the lone striker and didn't perform all too well, he did with a partner yesterday. So perhaps bringing in a replacement for Bony better suited to us would then benefit him just as much. Or having Pellegrini look at his options and instead of seeing Bony and Iheanacho as his options, perhaps see's two better suited and it benefits the team more.

A Bony replacement doesn't necessarily have to be someone just below Aguero's level and thus keeping Iheanacho as the third choice. A Hernandez type player wouldn't, in fact they'd probably suit each other.

Or someone who is more accomplished up front than Sterling but can play out wide, gives us the option of playing him up front knowing he can score goals if all the other striking options are out but offers depth out wide foremost.

I feel the notion of just doing away with Bony has more to do with making sure Iheanacho doesn't get any more competition for a spot than it does being able to compensate it. It doesn't have to be detrimental to him, as shown.

 

[itisrising]

Again though you said with De Bruyne, Silva and Sterling we'd be fine, it's their first priority to create, they didn't then in your eyes and we weren't fine for goals.

Iheanacho did get a shot at home to Norwich as the lone striker and didn't perform all too well, he did with a partner yesterday. So perhaps bringing in a replacement for Bony better suited to us would then benefit him just as much. Or having Pellegrini look at his options and instead of seeing Bony and Iheanacho as his options, perhaps see's two better suited and it benefits the team more.

A Bony replacement doesn't necessarily have to be someone just below Aguero's level and thus keeping Iheanacho as the third choice. A Hernandez type player wouldn't, in fact they'd probably suit each other.

Or someone who is more accomplished up front than Sterling but can play out wide, gives us the option of playing him up front knowing he can score goals if all the other striking options are out but offers depth out wide foremost.

I feel the notion of just doing away with Bony has more to do with making sure Iheanacho doesn't get any more competition for a spot than it does being able to compensate it. It doesn't have to be detrimental to him, as shown.

Nacho played with Bony against Norwich and despite not having his best game wa far more effective than Bony.

I do think though alot of the Bony out club comes from the fact that people just want Nacho to get the platform to succeed. If anything, it's like Bony is the obstacle that's stopping Iheanacho getting crucial minutes in his development and Bony's performance certainly don't warrant such an opportunity cost. I do think plenty of Blues would take finishing second in the league if it meant we'd produce a top-class striker from our own academy that can help us in our development as a football club. At the end of the day, as long as Bony's here, Iheanacho wont be number 2