Bruno Peres

You can say that again..... he's what 26....and only played 3 seasons of 1st team football..... rest of career been spent loaned out... nowhere near the current worst Brazil team in my lifetime (probably ever)..... and people have decided he's better than the current French national right back? I remember being in the Spain team was reason enough to declare Nolito as the second coming of christ!.....so why is this guy a great signing?
LIke i said, 15 million is more than enough for him. to reject that is just pure greed.
 
You can say that again..... he's what 26....and only played 3 seasons of 1st team football..... rest of career been spent loaned out... nowhere near the current worst Brazil team in my lifetime (probably ever)..... and people have decided he's better than the current French national right back? I remember being in the Spain team was reason enough to declare Nolito as the second coming of christ!.....so why is this guy a great signing?

Another incredibly positive post from you.

I think the transfer forum would sink into a hole of negativity without you around to spread your optimism.
 
You can say that again..... he's what 26....and only played 3 seasons of 1st team football..... rest of career been spent loaned out... nowhere near the current worst Brazil team in my lifetime (probably ever)..... and people have decided he's better than the current French national right back? I remember being in the Spain team was reason enough to declare Nolito as the second coming of christ!.....so why is this guy a great signing?

Paulinho had plenty of caps for Brazil and Fernandinho had none, when spurs signed Paulinho and we signed Ferna. Ferna also cost 2x more, and is 3 years older. Paulinho is about the same age as Ferna was when we signed him. Paulinho is now playing in China after flopping for Spurs, while Ferna has been a big success. Playing for the national team isn't always a good indicator. Not to mention that Brazil have had Alves as their RB for some time.
 
You can say that again..... he's what 26....and only played 3 seasons of 1st team football..... rest of career been spent loaned out... nowhere near the current worst Brazil team in my lifetime (probably ever)..... and people have decided he's better than the current French national right back? I remember being in the Spain team was reason enough to declare Nolito as the second coming of christ!.....so why is this guy a great signing?

Cos it appears the best manager in the world has chosen him as our right-back..... Good enough?
 
LIke i said, 15 million is more than enough for him. to reject that is just pure greed.
Not greed, its Torinos' job to get the best price they can for him, if they end up not selling it may be a misjudgement, but then again they may not mind him staying if they can't get what they think he is worth.
 
LIke i said, 15 million is more than enough for him. to reject that is just pure greed.

They are just holding out for there valuation which is €20 mill so I'd assume it may get done at around £15 mill.
 
Paulinho had plenty of caps for Brazil and Fernandinho had none, when spurs signed Paulinho and we signed Ferna. Ferna also cost 2x more, and is 3 years older. Paulinho is about the same age now as Ferna was when we signed him. Paulinho is now playing in China while Ferna has been a big success. Playing for the national team isn't always a good indicator. Not to mention that Brazil have had Alves as their RB for some time.

I agree with you.....was pointing out the argument used for Nolito being a great signing ;)
Jonny.....Just because Pep wants a player doesn't elevate them to greatness.... that argument has been used for years by 'in Arsene we trust' arse fans.
 
You can say that again..... he's what 26....and only played 3 seasons of 1st team football..... rest of career been spent loaned out... nowhere near the current worst Brazil team in my lifetime (probably ever)..... and people have decided he's better than the current French national right back? I remember being in the Spain team was reason enough to declare Nolito as the second coming of christ!.....so why is this guy a great signing?

Imagine saying this after we signed Fernandinho who was nowhere near the Brazilian team prior to signing with us. Some of Brazil's problems is the way the team is selected with agents and "who's the most marketable" affecting selections vs who's in form/best players. Then you compare it to another National team with questionable team selection. That's not a knock on Sagna who's been great for us and France but you didn't use the greatest examples to back up your points at all.
 
Because the Brazilian team is picked on merit....

Granted he could be shite but I wouldn't use that as a measurement.
 
I agree with you.....was pointing out the argument used for Nolito being a great signing ;)
Jonny.....Just because Pep wants a player doesn't elevate them to greatness.... that argument has been used for years by 'in Arsene we trust' arse fans.

Oh look, it's southamptonblue being a negative nancy again. Imagine my surprise.

1. There are plenty of arguments why Nolito was a good signing, but then you knew that already and were just being obtuse.

2. Wenger isn't even in the same league as Guardiola. Who are you trying to kid?
 
LIke i said, 15 million is more than enough for him. to reject that is just pure greed.
Up until a few months back, I'd have said exactly The same. Sadly though I've now come to the conclusion that If we went for a right back, from the dog and duck, these days, they'd insist that the track suits we gave them in exchange were supplied by Georgio Armani.... Fact of life.!!

Not sure on this one myself, to be honest, but if Pep thinks he's better than what we currently have, then go for it. Can't keep walking away.
 
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I agree with you.....was pointing out the argument used for Nolito being a great signing ;)
Jonny.....Just because Pep wants a player doesn't elevate them to greatness.... that argument has been used for years by 'in Arsene we trust' arse fans.

No but you were looking for 'why is this a great signing' on a fans forum.....

All due respect to the football geniuses on here.....I'll take Pep's judgment over that....
 
People need to realise that we have a city premium on any player we buy. It's life. Who cares what any transfer costs if it's affordable I'm respect to the first team and merchandise over the contract.
Also... pep is signing players he not only trusts but have a superb work ethic. Half the battle in the prem is matching teams with hard work and then our talented players take over. Too many games were lost with the team thinking it'd be a walk over.
Yes all city fans want the best players. But they don't create the right blend. Peres is very quick. Attacking and recovery is key in the full backs this season. That's why Zabba and kola are being moved on. Left back has always been our weak link to which I'm sure it'll be addressed. In pep we trust lol
 
Imagine saying this after we signed Fernandinho who was nowhere near the Brazilian team prior to signing with us. Some of Brazil's problems is the way the team is selected with agents and "who's the most marketable" affecting selections vs who's in form/best players. Then you compare it to another National team with questionable team selection. That's not a knock on Sagna who's been great for us and France but you didn't use the greatest examples to back up your points at all.
That happens everywhere mate. -Certainly with regards to the England team - No matter how useless they are. Rooney & Smallin were surely prime examples of that point in Euro 2016
 
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So I downloaded two matches to watch him because I think competent fullbacks are a top priority this season, and I was impressed with a couple things, as well as disappointed with others.

He was the quickest player on the pitch. The guy's got afterburners. He'did probably be our quickest player. His speed gets him out of trouble.

The way he dribbles reminds you of a proper winger.

His passing and crossing, though, seemed wayward, and I am certain he will make me shit myself when he is defending a corner. Not confident or strong in the air from the little bit I saw.
 
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Peres(RWB) 31 Appearances, 3 goals(31 shots), 32 chances created(4 assists), 45 tackles, 36 interceptions, 41 clearances, 5 blocks, 7 headers won

Kolarov(LB) 28 appearances, 3 goals(26 shots), 38 chances created(3 assists), 25 tackles, 46 interceptions, 94 clearances, 8 blocks, 43 headers won


Nothing wrong with his stamina, still bombing past our left winger in the 90th minute. You don't have to have pace to be a wingback, Lichtsteiner & Evra are not quick and they do just fine for Juventus in those positions. His work ethic is iffy but he does more defensive work than Peres


Your flogging a dead horse mate. Kolorov is not what we need going forward.
 
Serie A is struggling these days and this is how every outgoing transfer goes. There are no top players going to Italy to play (with the exception of Juve) and all their brightest more talented players are leaving. They are trying to squeeze every penny out of the clubs who are taking their talent, as well they should I guess. They are also trying to lowball everyone on the players they are buying (Zaba).... Serie A is in a bad state right now. It's a shame too because Euro football is better off with the Milan teams competitive again.

I for one hope we finalize this. Great pace going forward, offensive minded and Pep approved. Good for me
 
You can say that again..... he's what 26....and only played 3 seasons of 1st team football..... rest of career been spent loaned out... nowhere near the current worst Brazil team in my lifetime (probably ever)..... and people have decided he's better than the current French national right back? I remember being in the Spain team was reason enough to declare Nolito as the second coming of christ!.....so why is this guy a great signing?
O think Sagna will bench him initially, but eventually I expect him to take over because of his offensive abilities.
 

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