Bundesliga review part 2. the new one :)

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German Blues said:
BayernMan said:
Its done Bayern Munich are 2013/14 German Bundesliga Champions!!!

No one, really no one is interested in that. Becoming champion on a Tuesday evening, is a little bit like summer holiday in Wolfsburg.

No you aren't interested, I'm pretty interested tbh and don't give a toss whether you are or not. Admittedly though it is just another cup on the shelf.
I don't know who you support but don't knock winning until you've tried it.
 
supercrystal7 said:
Congratulations to winning the league at the earliest ever date. They are still on course to break the scoring record and go the season undefeated.

I saw the first half and last 15 of the Dortmund vs Schalke game. Was interesting, but shame too much fouling. Both teams have holes in their team, which need to be improved in the summer. From what I saw Schalke had the more quality, but were not as well organised and always looked like conceding from a set piece. A shame there was so much acting.

The Schalke front 3 could be exceptional if they stay together. Draxler has to ask himself what he has to gain from leaving? It's not like Arsenal or Liverpool do better than Schalke in the Champions League and nor do they usually challenge for the title. Schalke are his home club so perhaps he would be wise to stay. If Barcelona, City or Bayern came in for him then that is a different matter. If it's just a question of wages then after signing a proper manager Schalke would do well to give him what he wants. They earn enough to be competitive with the likes of Liverpool and Tottenham in terms of wages. Boateng is going to be a problem. It's awful for Schalke that he is one of the leaders of the club. He has never taken his football seriously enough in regards to professionalism and refused to play where he was told today. He was supposed to play in midfield, but kept playing as an attacking midfielder, which left Schalke unable to pass the ball up. Add experience and this team would fly. Give Schalke a proper manager throw in the likes of Sandro, Ashley Cole and Puyol then this team would be a top 8 European side.

Dortmund were typical Dortmund with all of their usual problems and strengths. I don't see much chance of them beating Madrid and may not finish above Schalke. Will take the best part of 80 million for them to get back to what they were next season.

If you have the chance - watch the first half of the Bayern match today. It was somehow a blueprint how Löw could go for the World Cup as it was Lahm, Kroos and Schweinsteiger in midfield and Götze, Müller, Robben in front. Sub Robben with Reus or Özil and that could be it. The goals then were all German, too. Kroos with Müller assisting and Götze with Schweinsteiger assisting.

Looked pretty good. If you play that right and really exercise for it that might be the best solution.
 
bayern blade said:
German Blues said:
BayernMan said:
Its done Bayern Munich are 2013/14 German Bundesliga Champions!!!

No one, really no one is interested in that. Becoming champion on a Tuesday evening, is a little bit like summer holiday in Wolfsburg.

No you aren't interested, I'm pretty interested tbh and don't give a toss whether you are or not. Admittedly though it is just another cup on the shelf.
I don't know who you support but don't knock winning until you've tried it.

Sorry, but it's not only me who don't cares what Bayern does. Of course, as Bayern supporter you can be proud of your club and your team, but the rest of Football Germany is not interested in your club anymore. Even the haters have gone. I always thought that these matches against Bayern are special days. These days have gone, because every team has got no real chance against your team. Boring boring Bundesliga...

Congratulations!
 
Maldeika said:
supercrystal7 said:
Congratulations to winning the league at the earliest ever date. They are still on course to break the scoring record and go the season undefeated.

I saw the first half and last 15 of the Dortmund vs Schalke game. Was interesting, but shame too much fouling. Both teams have holes in their team, which need to be improved in the summer. From what I saw Schalke had the more quality, but were not as well organised and always looked like conceding from a set piece. A shame there was so much acting.

The Schalke front 3 could be exceptional if they stay together. Draxler has to ask himself what he has to gain from leaving? It's not like Arsenal or Liverpool do better than Schalke in the Champions League and nor do they usually challenge for the title. Schalke are his home club so perhaps he would be wise to stay. If Barcelona, City or Bayern came in for him then that is a different matter. If it's just a question of wages then after signing a proper manager Schalke would do well to give him what he wants. They earn enough to be competitive with the likes of Liverpool and Tottenham in terms of wages. Boateng is going to be a problem. It's awful for Schalke that he is one of the leaders of the club. He has never taken his football seriously enough in regards to professionalism and refused to play where he was told today. He was supposed to play in midfield, but kept playing as an attacking midfielder, which left Schalke unable to pass the ball up. Add experience and this team would fly. Give Schalke a proper manager throw in the likes of Sandro, Ashley Cole and Puyol then this team would be a top 8 European side.

Dortmund were typical Dortmund with all of their usual problems and strengths. I don't see much chance of them beating Madrid and may not finish above Schalke. Will take the best part of 80 million for them to get back to what they were next season.

If you have the chance - watch the first half of the Bayern match today. It was somehow a blueprint how Löw could go for the World Cup as it was Lahm, Kroos and Schweinsteiger in midfield and Götze, Müller, Robben in front. Sub Robben with Reus or Özil and that could be it. The goals then were all German, too. Kroos with Müller assisting and Götze with Schweinsteiger assisting.

Looked pretty good. If you play that right and really exercise for it that might be the best solution.
I recorded both matches, but probably won't have time to watch them until Saturday.

Lahm is such a great player he would be brilliant at right back, left back or midfield. If Lahm plays midfield then who do you play right back? Boateng?
 
supercrystal7 said:
Maldeika said:
supercrystal7 said:
Congratulations to winning the league at the earliest ever date. They are still on course to break the scoring record and go the season undefeated.

I saw the first half and last 15 of the Dortmund vs Schalke game. Was interesting, but shame too much fouling. Both teams have holes in their team, which need to be improved in the summer. From what I saw Schalke had the more quality, but were not as well organised and always looked like conceding from a set piece. A shame there was so much acting.

The Schalke front 3 could be exceptional if they stay together. Draxler has to ask himself what he has to gain from leaving? It's not like Arsenal or Liverpool do better than Schalke in the Champions League and nor do they usually challenge for the title. Schalke are his home club so perhaps he would be wise to stay. If Barcelona, City or Bayern came in for him then that is a different matter. If it's just a question of wages then after signing a proper manager Schalke would do well to give him what he wants. They earn enough to be competitive with the likes of Liverpool and Tottenham in terms of wages. Boateng is going to be a problem. It's awful for Schalke that he is one of the leaders of the club. He has never taken his football seriously enough in regards to professionalism and refused to play where he was told today. He was supposed to play in midfield, but kept playing as an attacking midfielder, which left Schalke unable to pass the ball up. Add experience and this team would fly. Give Schalke a proper manager throw in the likes of Sandro, Ashley Cole and Puyol then this team would be a top 8 European side.

Dortmund were typical Dortmund with all of their usual problems and strengths. I don't see much chance of them beating Madrid and may not finish above Schalke. Will take the best part of 80 million for them to get back to what they were next season.

If you have the chance - watch the first half of the Bayern match today. It was somehow a blueprint how Löw could go for the World Cup as it was Lahm, Kroos and Schweinsteiger in midfield and Götze, Müller, Robben in front. Sub Robben with Reus or Özil and that could be it. The goals then were all German, too. Kroos with Müller assisting and Götze with Schweinsteiger assisting.

Looked pretty good. If you play that right and really exercise for it that might be the best solution.
I recorded both matches, but probably won't have time to watch them until Saturday.

Lahm is such a great player he would be brilliant at right back, left back or midfield. If Lahm plays midfield then who do you play right back? Boateng?

being Germans they'd probably find a way to nationalise Piszczek and eradicate any record of him ever playing for Poland and list him as a homegrown talent. If that becomes too difficult they'll just do their usual trick.
 
Firmino extended his contract at Hoffenheim for 3 years by the way.

Not sure if there is a release clause, though...

Drimic scored another two goals yesterday. Without him Nürnberg would really be lost.

Overall what the Bundesliga lacks in competition on the tops spots is made up by this years relegation fights.

Braunschweig managed to beat Mainz, Nürnberg beats Stuttgart after not winning for 4 games in a row. Hoffenheim turns over Hannover and puts them under pressure again as well and Hamburg-Freiburg only manage a draw which doesnt help either team.

We somehow managed to get a win against Gladbach as well...4 more points to go! :(
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
supercrystal7 said:
Maldeika said:
If you have the chance - watch the first half of the Bayern match today. It was somehow a blueprint how Löw could go for the World Cup as it was Lahm, Kroos and Schweinsteiger in midfield and Götze, Müller, Robben in front. Sub Robben with Reus or Özil and that could be it. The goals then were all German, too. Kroos with Müller assisting and Götze with Schweinsteiger assisting.

Looked pretty good. If you play that right and really exercise for it that might be the best solution.
I recorded both matches, but probably won't have time to watch them until Saturday.

Lahm is such a great player he would be brilliant at right back, left back or midfield. If Lahm plays midfield then who do you play right back? Boateng?

being Germans they'd probably find a way to nationalise Piszczek and eradicate any record of him ever playing for Poland and list him as a homegrown talent. If that becomes too difficult they'll just do their usual trick.

Is it like this? I do not see any current player of the German national team that has not grown up in Germany - only two have not been born in Germany but have parents of German heritage and came to Germany at a very young age. Özil's father already has been born in Germany. Others have a German and a foreign parent but totally grew up in Germany and do not have much relationship to the other country.

Whereas there is other nations that are playing with players that are born and grew up in Germany...
 
KenTheLandlord said:
How is Jonathan Tah doing at Hamburg?

I think that lad has a lot of potential

Has been a regular until the change of coaches - but had some bad matches at the end (like a lot of the Hamburg players). Lately he only played for the second team - and for the U19. Might be the smartest right now. You do not set your faith on such young players in relegation fights - you burn them with that.
 
sam-caddick said:
Tancredi Palmeri ‏@tancredipalmeri 8 hrs

Barcelona met Gundogan for medical tests, according to Mundo Deportivo, which prepares to the departure of Xavi

What's going to happen to Dortmund this Summer?
Who knows. They will lose Gundogan and it looks like they will lose Reus as well. As things stand right now even without those players they have enough to get top 4 and probably make the last 16 of the CL given a favourable draw. They can either take the Arsenal route and focus on repaying their debts or they can actually try and catch Bayern.

Midweek both Bayern and Celtic won their respective leagues. Bayern currently have a bigger lead than even Celitc. The German clubs like Schalke and Dortmund have no excuse for this. Bayern does not even have twice the turnover or wage budget of Dortmund, but Celtic has over 5 times the turner over and wage budget of Aberdeen, yet Aberdeen were able to put up a better fight. It's not Bayern's fault, but the other teams need to take a long hard look at themselves.

Schalke need a god manager and to bring in 2 or 3 highly experienced successful players. Guys like Puyol, Xavi, Alonso, Vidic, Evra and Cole. They could also do with signing a proper defensive midfielder, but above all they need a new manager.

Dortmund need to spend close to 80 million to catch Bayern. They should get some money from Gundogan leaving (which seems like a foolish move on his part) and I would see Mkhitaryan. That should give them around 40 million odd back. They could do a lot worse than signing the current loanees at Everton, Lukaku and Deulofeu. Deulofeu would be brilliant, but Volland would be a suitable if they cannot get Lewandowski. Maybe a gamble on Holtby to replace Gundogan and then go all out for Ozil. However, they won't they will buy Sahin, Ramos and maybe Volland at best. They will maybe fall behind Schalke and finally Reus and Hummels will be off, leaving them without any world class players.


I did manage to watch both games during the week. It's funny how I missed all the Dortmund chances. Dortmund absolutely destroyed Schalke's poor set up in the second half and could easily have won 3 or 4 nil.

Maldeika, I did watch Bayern against Hertha and you are right the first half was unbelievable. The speed and accuracy of the passing was fantastic. Kroos and Schweinsteiger dominated play, but I really loved seeing Kroos get stuck in and use his physicality a lot more. It was frightening how good they were. The only shame was that the game was over in the first 13 minutes and they did not have to push themselves. That being said the problem with Rafinha playing right back reared it's head again. He gave away a stupid penalty, which could have put Hertha back into the game.
 
Ruhr said:
supercrystal7 said:
Schalke need a god manager and to bring in 2 or 3 highly experienced successful players. Guys like Puyol, Xavi, Alonso, Vidic, Evra and Cole. Tr.

why not Messi?
What's so impossible about bringing in Puyol or Xavi, who looks like he is leaving? Cole and Evra are probably off too and Alonso will probably leave at the end of the following season. Vidic has already gone to Inter, but he wanted the sun so was never really an option. Wages could be a stumbling block, but with no transfer fee like the case for Vidic, Puyol, Evra and Cole then it can be made up. You did the same with Raul and this team more than ever needs a legendary experienced player to motivate and lead the youngsters.

EDIT
Even the likes of Klose and Etoo are examples of what is needed, but they unfortunately play where Huntelaar does.
 
supercrystal7 said:
Ruhr said:
supercrystal7 said:
Schalke need a god manager and to bring in 2 or 3 highly experienced successful players. Guys like Puyol, Xavi, Alonso, Vidic, Evra and Cole. Tr.

why not Messi?
What's so impossible about bringing in Puyol or Xavi, who looks like he is leaving? Cole and Evra are probably off too and Alonso will probably leave at the end of the following season. Vidic has already gone to Inter, but he wanted the sun so was never really an option. Wages could be a stumbling block, but with no transfer fee like the case for Vidic, Puyol, Evra and Cole then it can be made up. You did the same with Raul and this team more than ever needs a legendary experienced player to motivate and lead the youngsters.

EDIT
Even the likes of Klose and Etoo are examples of what is needed, but they unfortunately play where Huntelaar does.

If Xavi is available, even Alonso, both players could easily grace another top team in Europe.

I think Pellegrini was looking at Alonso before he signed his new deal this season, but I would take Xavi any day, having him, Toure and Fernandinho in a midfield three would be immense. Silva, Nasri and Sergio up top.
 
Xavi has picked up form and Alonso has come back well from his injury so I expect they will stay for one more season. It's in 2015 where I still think they would both be fantastic signings for a team in like Schalke. It might be a year premature for those guys, but not for the likes of Puyol, Vidic, Evra, Cole, Lampard, Etoo etc. You just have to make sure that they have come not just for the pay packet, but also to lead a young team. Etoo has worked wonders for the likes of Hazard and Oscar. You are probably aware of the influence Vieira had at City.

Schalke are one of the bigger teams in Europe. They have a huge stadium, despite debt make as much as Tottenham and have one of the best youth systems in the world. They have a great chance of finishing 2nd in the Bundesliga and though they shamed themselves did make the last 16 of the CL.
 
Ruhr said:
supercrystal7 said:
You did the same with Raul

Raul was in large parts paid by Real Madrid while he was playing for Schalke.
Then you could try and make a similar deal for another player. However, Schalke still have one of the highest incomes in Europe, top 15. They can afford to pay big wages to the likes of Huntelaar. Since these players are in the 33-35 age range, there is no transfer fee and all the money can be spent on wages. It would be far more beneficial for Schalke to splash their summer investment on wages for such a player rather than bringing in the likes of Boateng or Aoga.

In an ideal world you would bring in legendary German players, but only Lahm and Schweinsteiger and Schalke have as much chance of buying Mess as those two. A few years back the likes of Hamann and Ballack would have been perfect, but now you have to go foreign.

The likes of Draxler, Meyer, Goretzka need the leadership and guidance to reach their full potential. These kids really need to learn the amount of after training work the greats put into their game. They need to see Lampard working hard on his shots, his touch after training sessions rather than Boateng having a beer and smoke. Even if they do fulfill their potential then they will end up like the Arsenal team. Talented players, but collapsing and being embarrassed with no fight, which the Schalke team already do.

Not all of them are going to want to play for Schalke and it's important to get somebody still hungry to prove something.
 
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