Burglar stabbed to death, Manchester [Merged]

Re: Salford break-in where intruder was stabbed to death

wayne71 said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
I initially thought you had misunderstood my posts,and subsequently went to great lengths to clarify them.
Most folk got the point.
I now appreciate that with you I was wasting my time,as you are simply stupid,and unable to grasp even the basic rudimentaries of why we have a legal system that allows trial by jury in order to ascertain guilt or innocence,rather than the retribution of an ill-informed mob.
It is not a mistake I shall be repeating.

I take your point, my issue is with your naive trust in our legal system to ascertain what is reasonable force.

Any force is reasonable when someone has broken into your house.

Not under UK law it aint.
Twat the robber then wait for the feds is ok. But if you twat the robber, wait a bit then tweat him again then that's 'un-reasonable force' under uk law.
 
This is the right idea...

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13957587" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13957587</a>

Justice Secretary Ken Clarke has said a householder who knifes a burglar will not have committed a criminal offence under plans to clarify the law on self-defence in England.

He told the BBC people were entitled to use "whatever force necessary" to protect themselves and their homes.

David Cameron recently said the issue should be put "beyond doubt".

Read more...
 
The Taliban and so many of you guys seem to see agree on so many things.

Death to thieves. Death to rapists. Death to women who are ugly. Death to people who break any law you deem important.
 
TheMightyQuinn said:
The Taliban and so many of you guys seem to see agree on so many things.

Death to thieves. Death to rapists. Death to women who are ugly. Death to people who break any law you deem important.
Not death by trial no, I don't think anyone thinks that. What the majority of us do think though is that if someone breaks into a house, which isn't theirs, to steal stuff, which isn't theirs, they leave any kind of right they had at the doorstep and if it so happens that a fatal blow is accidentally struck, then tough shit. The blow wouldn't have needed to be struck if they had not broken in, in the first place. I would never pick up my snooker cue to intentionally kill a burglar, what I would do though is lash out as hard, fast and vicious as I could to any part of his/her body which I know is going to stop them doing what is putting me and my family in danger. If one of those blows strikes him/her in the temple and kills them pretty much stone dead, again its just hard lines for the person who simply shouldn't have been there in the first place. That is what I mean anyway and it sounds that is what most people think too.
 
Lucky13 said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
The Taliban and so many of you guys seem to see agree on so many things.

Death to thieves. Death to rapists. Death to women who are ugly. Death to people who break any law you deem important.


When do you stand for Election?

Probably when I manage to not snigger at the word 'election' because it sounds a bit like 'erection',<br /><br />-- Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:16 pm --<br /><br />
Pigeonho said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
The Taliban and so many of you guys seem to see agree on so many things.

Death to thieves. Death to rapists. Death to women who are ugly. Death to people who break any law you deem important.
Not death by trial no, I don't think anyone thinks that. What the majority of us do think though is that if someone breaks into a house, which isn't theirs, to steal stuff, which isn't theirs, they leave any kind of right they had at the doorstep and if it so happens that a fatal blow is accidentally struck, then tough shit. The blow wouldn't have needed to be struck if they had not broken in, in the first place. I would never pick up my snooker cue to intentionally kill a burglar, what I would do though is lash out as hard, fast and vicious as I could to any part of his/her body which I know is going to stop them doing what is putting me and my family in danger. If one of those blows strikes him/her in the temple and kills them pretty much stone dead, again its just hard lines for the person who simply shouldn't have been there in the first place. That is what I mean anyway and it sounds that is what most people think too.

2 wrongs do not make a right.

Love is the answer.
 
The death sentence for murderers should be judged on who wins a game of connect 4 out of the prosecution and the defense. Would be piss funny and screen to millions world wide.
 
tueartsboots said:
Scottyboi said:
The death sentence for murderers should be judged on who wins a game of connect 4 out of the prosecution and the defense. Would be piss funny and screen to millions world wide.
be better if it was Guess Who surely?

Save that one for the rapists surely?
 
Scottyboi said:
The death sentence for murderers should be judged on who wins a game of connect 4 out of the prosecution and the defense. Would be piss funny and screen to millions world wide.


This would be far too costly for the taxpayer.
Scissors,paper,stone, best of three would be a much better option.
And possibly the best way to secure the conviction of Abu Hamza.
 

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