Can i politely ask why the 'ethnic slurs' thread was deleted

[InvisibleMan]

Excuse my ignorance but it was hardly offensive, contained no malice (or underlying malice) and contained no actual racism.

 

[Bigga]

I think the thread was pathetic, myself and I, for one, fully applaud the deletion decision.

We ahve a mixed board of many diversities now, much more than ever. It doesn't need dragging down, by the likes of yourself, in order to have an excuse for Race bashing. "Oh, it was in humour"/ "PC jobsworth can't take a joke"... you might say. No, it's time we closed the door on such 'humour'. I don't care if it's meant to be all encompassing. That point of view is truly a guise for an agenda.

Glad it's gone.

 

[InvisibleMan]

I think the thread was pathetic, myself and I, for one, fully applaud the deletion decision.

We ahve a mixed board of many diversities now, much more than ever. It doesn't need dragging down, by the likes of yourself, in order to have an excuse for Race bashing. "Oh, it was in humour"/ "PC jobsworth can't take a joke"... you might say. No, it's time we closed the door on such 'humour'. I don't care if it's meant to be all encompassing. That point of view is truly a guise for an agenda.

Glad it's gone.

Yourself and you for one should chill the fuck out, mate. And stop putting repiles into my mouth. It was nothing like a 'race bashing' thread and anyone who thinks it was needs to have a serious word with themselves and stop lobbing one out over any and every oppurtunity to educate.

 

[Bigga]

So... Explain the need for the original post. What level of curiosity did it rouse and what did you hope to conclude from your 'investigation'...?

 

[GStar]

I'm guessing it's becasue you listed a number of Racial Slurs, which some may find offensive and then asked which the funniest were?

Not putting my opinion in this thread but surely even the bluntest of knives can understand why the thread was removed?

 

[Bluemoon115]

I'm guessing it's becasue you listed a number of Racial Slurs, which some may find offensive and then asked which the funniest were?

Not putting my opinion in this thread but surely even the bluntest of knives can understand why the thread was removed?

Yeah but this guy comes accross as more of a spoon tbh.

 

[Ric]

Just seemed like a bit of a pointless thread to me, posted purely to be controversial. I'm sure you'll argue it was a Lenny Bruce style discussion about the semantics of the slurs listed, but I suspect you knew it'd be removed and give you an opportunity to complain about excessive censorship, political correctness gone mad blah blah.

 

[InvisibleMan]

Thought it might be slighty controversial, yes. But thought that might make for an interesting thread. It was after thinking, or wondering, why we are ok with certain ethnic slurs and even laugh at them...but others we are offended by; possibly more the result of an instant reaction due to social conditioning rather than taking real offense.

The reaction to the thread seems to highlight this. I'm not trying to test anyones patience and i'm not trying to push any rule boundaries. If it's deleted, fine. Asking why was out of curiousity more than some sort of internet forum anarchy. :-)

 

[Ric]

Fair do's mate, I sort of see where you're coming from (certainly about social conditioning) but the thread would've degenerated into a slanging match where people list more racist slurs, whilst others get pissed off and complain. Easier to nip it in the bud now. There was no sinister motive behind deleting it.

 

[InvisibleMan]

Granted, Ric said more eloquently what I meant to say, but my original point remains the same.

Thought it might be slighty controversial, yes. But thought that might make for an interesting thread. It was after thinking, or wondering, why we are ok with certain ethnic slurs and even laugh at them...but others we are offended by; possibly more the result of an instant reaction due to social conditioning rather than taking real offense.

The reaction to the thread seems to highlight this. I'm not trying to test anyones patience and i'm not trying to push any rule boundaries. If it's deleted, fine. Asking why was out of curiousity more than some sort of internet forum anarchy. :-)

Taking into account this paragraph, it slants your OP, somewhat, and raises a legitimate question. It's just how you did it, originally, that lays it open to abuse from abusers.

In addition, I'd like to take a point you raised, when you say 'social conditioning'. To me, that's a massive overstatement, from my point of view. I have been, as you are, open to 'social conditioning' from a racial standpoint. I could have 'hated' Muslims or Chinese, etc., etc., if left to be influenced by society alone.

However, I don't as my first port of learning came from parental views. I would dare say that this influence is of more sway and leads one to 'like minded' individuals in society that are 'tolerant' or 'intolerant' of different Race.

My question is which category do you fall into, to propose such a thread in the way you did, IM?

A hard question to answer. I'm not really sure what you're asking. Sometimes asking why can be more interesting than just accepting things as they are. But sometimes the people asking why can fall into the trap of ignoring the humanity behind politcal correctness in their attempt to remain in control of their own sub concious actions.

I do both.

And sometimes those who hear/read the questions can fall victim to trying to educate or are blinded by a righteousness that reduces their ability to see the question as genuine as apposed to rebelion, ignorance or hatred...or whatever. Most discussions then fall into arguments where questions are answered that where never asked and lables are wrongly given to those who asked the question.

Or something like that.

 

[Wheelsy]

It's definitely an interesting concept, I mean I can pick two names of that list that would mean instant banning (a big shout out to Wesmancity), yet others are only deemed slightly offensive, and may have used myself.

Using the N-bomb, for instance, is apparently one of the worst words you can use, but becomes hilarious when used by a black comedian. Double standards? Perhaps. It just the world we live in.

 

[InvisibleMan]

It's definitely an interesting concept, I mean I can pick two names of that list that would mean instant banning (a big shout out to Wesmancity), yet others are only deemed slightly offensive, and may have used myself.

Using the N-bomb, for instance, is apparently one of the worst words you can use, but becomes hilarious when used by a black comedian. Double standards? Perhaps. It just the world we live in.

That would be due to it not seeming racist as it has been said by the same race/colour...which is understandable.

 

[Bigga]

It's definitely an interesting concept, I mean I can pick two names of that list that would mean instant banning (a big shout out to Wesmancity), yet others are only deemed slightly offensive, and may have used myself.

Using the N-bomb, for instance, is apparently one of the worst words you can use, but becomes hilarious when used by a black comedian. Double standards? Perhaps. It just the world we live in.

That would be due to it not seeming racist as it has been said by the same race/colour...which is understandable.

Just when I thought I understood you, you make this comment. If it can be 'understandable' for the same race/ colour to disarm/ claim back degenerative words said about themselves, then where is the 'humour' for another Race to pick over those demeaniing words to laugh at?

 

[jimharri]

I'm guessing it's becasue you listed a number of Racial Slurs, which some may find offensive and then asked which the funniest were?

Not putting my opinion in this thread but surely even the bluntest of knives can understand why the thread was removed?

Yeah but this guy comes accross as more of a spoon tbh.

Bit of a dick actually. Probably got lost on his way to Fred Tissue.

 

[Bigga]

And sometimes those who hear/read the questions can fall victim to trying to educate or are blinded by a righteousness that reduces their ability to see the question as genuine as apposed to rebelion, ignorance or hatred...or whatever.* Most discussions then fall into arguments where questions are answered that where never asked and lables are wrongly given to those who asked the question.

Or something like that.

* This point, you raise, I think YOU fall into the trap of assuming the reason behind a 'righteousness'. If this desire to act is to stop further division, what's wrong with it? It's merely a want to unite people than see reason to divide, even in humour.

I have personal experience and don't find humour in ANY racial jokes. We're supposed to be moving toward a more... sophisticated society. When does it start? This generation or next... or beyond?

 

[InvisibleMan]

It's definitely an interesting concept, I mean I can pick two names of that list that would mean instant banning (a big shout out to Wesmancity), yet others are only deemed slightly offensive, and may have used myself.

Using the N-bomb, for instance, is apparently one of the worst words you can use, but becomes hilarious when used by a black comedian. Double standards? Perhaps. It just the world we live in.

That would be due to it not seeming racist as it has been said by the same race/colour...which is understandable.

Just when I thought I understood you, you make this comment. If it can be 'understandable' for the same race/ colour to disarm/ claim back degenerative words said about themselves, then where is the 'humour' for another Race to pick over those demeaniing words to laugh at?

There isn't a connection between the two points you have just raised. You're assuming i'd find the word ****** amusing if a white man said it to a black man just because i can understand why a black man might not take offence to hearing another black man describe him as a ******.

 

[InvisibleMan]

And sometimes those who hear/read the questions can fall victim to trying to educate or are blinded by a righteousness that reduces their ability to see the question as genuine as apposed to rebelion, ignorance or hatred...or whatever.* Most discussions then fall into arguments where questions are answered that where never asked and lables are wrongly given to those who asked the question.

Or something like that.

* This point, you raise, I think YOU fall into the trap of assuming the reason behind a 'righteousness'. If this desire to act is to stop further division, what's wrong with it? It's merely a want to unite people than see reason to divide, even in humour.

I have personal experience and don't find humour in ANY racial jokes. We're supposed to be moving toward a more... sophisticated society. When does it start? This generation or next... or beyond?

Just because your goal, aim, desire is a fair and good one doesn't mean that your every action in its attempt is the correct way, and that anyone else in disagreement, or who sees flaws, is wrong...or is a racist.

The problem with political correctness is not the goal, but the control of peoples minds and actions which occur in the process of acheiving this goal. Political correctness, i suspect, was only born from a fear of very rich people losing money with relation to the workplace. And then certain people continued it into the rest of society.

 

[InvisibleMan]

I'm guessing it's becasue you listed a number of Racial Slurs, which some may find offensive and then asked which the funniest were?

Not putting my opinion in this thread but surely even the bluntest of knives can understand why the thread was removed?

Yeah but this guy comes accross as more of a spoon tbh.

Bit of a dick actually. Probably got lost on his way to Fred Tissue.

Feel free to state why.

 

[Bigga]

Just because your goal, aim, desire is a fair and good one doesn't mean that your every action in its attempt is the correct way, and that anyone else in disagreement, or who sees flaws, is wrong...or is a racist.

The problem with political correctness is not the goal, but the control of peoples minds and actions which occur in the process of acheiving this goal. Political correctness, i suspect, was only born from a fear of very rich people losing money with relation to the workplace. And then certain people continued it into the rest of society.

Well, I'd like to thank 'political correctness' for one thing. Up until I was around 21/ 22, Iused to gawp at less abled bodied persons, than myself. It was only on really hearing how disgraceful it was, I took it on board. It took time, as I wasn't taught it from my parent. And now, I know that everyone has the same place in society.

I wouldn't feel the need to joke about someone in a wheelchair. Why would I feel the need to joke about a racial name? I just don't see the point, the 'education' of it or anything else. It's just dumb(no offence) that it needs highlighting.

And, besides, a fair few people have tried to do such a thing on this board, that were BNP sympathetic, that were just... pathetic.