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[Mancitybluemoon1]

City convinced by new Dutch star

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City have told Dutch starlet Karim Rekik they aren't planning to loan him out again and want him in the first-team squad next season. The 19-year-old defender spent last season on loan with PSV Eindhoven and his form was impressive enough to receive a call-up for the Netherlands. Rekik has come through City's academy and was willing to stay in Holland for another season, but has now been told to report for pre-season training at the Etihad Stadium. The teenager also qualifies as both 'homegrown' and 'club trained'. The Premier League champions believe Rekik is now ready to make the final step up and also help meet their squad quota requirements. The news will be a blow to West Bromwich Albion and Southampton as both clubs were showing interest in a season-long loan deal for the City centre-back.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Guys, I think its a big risk and he still very young but could this really happen?.......Could this be the reason why all has gone silent on signing a CB so far?......


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Apparently City asked Karim Rekik back at City and could refrain buying a CB to give him first team football.

I think this is big risk. Id prefer send him on loan and in the summer of 2015 replace Demichelis as he will get released then very likely. If we want to push for Europe someday, Rekik is way inexperienced for that to say the least. What if Kompany gets injured then? Then we have old Demichelis and two very young inexperienced centre backs in Nastasic and Rekik.

So replace Demichelis with Rekik next summer. Kompany, Benatia/Mangala, Nastasic & Rekik in 2015 as CB options. Not bad in my opinion.

Would make more sense than bringing Rekik back now

 

[Rammyblues]

I can't see the risk myself, we played most of the season with just two centre backs last year, if they are good enough they are old enough and it saves fucking about trying to get a player who is overpriced.

 

[FantasyIreland]

I can't see the risk myself, we played most of the season with just two centre backs last year, if they are good enough they are old enough and it saves fucking about trying to get a player who is overpriced.

You reckon Komps,Martin,Boyata,Nasty and Rekik are good enough options to win the Champs league?

 

[Rammyblues]

Probably not when you take a cold hard look at the players, puts an awful amount of pressure on Komps and Martin. Everyone else seems to give 18s and 19 year old the chance you only have to look at Barkley and Shaw. It would be nice for one of the young uns to come through and be in the first team. I dunno just glad we have experts in charge rather than amateur like myself. :-)

 

[Mr HJ]

I hope that this report about Rekik is true - I think he is a better bet than Nasty and it wouldn't surprise me if we sell the later rather than Karim. It would raise more money and I believe we would be better off in terms of homegrown quota, sending a positive message to our youth that if they knuckle down they can make the break through and I also think Martin is ok for another 12 months. Rekik had a good season by all accounts and played more than Nasty so win, win for me.

 

[FantasyIreland]

I hope that this report about Rekik is true - I think he is a better bet than Nasty and it wouldn't surprise me if we sell the later rather than Karim. It would raise more money and I believe we would be better off in terms of homegrown quota, sending a positive message to our youth that if they knuckle down they can make the break through and I also think Martin is ok for another 12 months. Rekik had a good season by all accounts and played more than Nasty so win, win for me.

I still think if we lose either of the first choice pair,any of our current reserves will significantly weaken us.

We need experienced quality.

 

[thesilvalining]

Maybe we believe Nastasic is at the point in his career where he needs regular football whereas rekik may need to just be training with top players. It wouldn't surprise me if Nastasic is loaned and rekik is our 4th choice cb behind kompany, demichelis and the new cb

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Probably not when you take a cold hard look at the players, puts an awful amount of pressure on Komps and Martin. Everyone else seems to give 18s and 19 year old the chance you only have to look at Barkley and Shaw. It would be nice for one of the young uns to come through and be in the first team. I dunno just glad we have experts in charge rather than amateur like myself. :-)

everyone else ?

those "everyone else" clubs finished 14 points and 30 points behind us and didnt play C/L football and were knocked out at earlier rounds of the Carling and FA cups.

 

[The Man With The Stick]

Don't get the ' sell Nasty' thing at all. He's a fantastic prospect. Not the finished article yet but how many are at his age?
He struggled a bit with injuries last year ... was crackin the year before though.
Just need a bit of patience, hopefully he'll play a big roll for us over the next 10 years

 

[Mr Ed (The Stables)]

Probably not when you take a cold hard look at the players, puts an awful amount of pressure on Komps and Martin. Everyone else seems to give 18s and 19 year old the chance you only have to look at Barkley and Shaw. It would be nice for one of the young uns to come through and be in the first team. I dunno just glad we have experts in charge rather than amateur like myself. :-)

everyone else ?

those "everyone else" clubs finished 14 points and 30 points behind us and didnt play C/L football and were knocked out at earlier rounds of the Carling and FA cups.

Totally agree. Hopefully after preseason we send the lad back on loan to further develop him as a player. An established International class CB is a must this summer for me.

 

[Andy Morrisons jock strap]

I think the clamour for a CB was not needed and people forget Nasty is not an inexperienced kid anymore or how good he was last year when we conceded the least goals in the prem, if he is over his injury worries we are well set at CB with Vinny MDM Nasty Rekik

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

City convinced by new Dutch star

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City have told Dutch starlet Karim Rekik they aren't planning to loan him out again and want him in the first-team squad next season. The 19-year-old defender spent last season on loan with PSV Eindhoven and his form was impressive enough to receive a call-up for the Netherlands. Rekik has come through City's academy and was willing to stay in Holland for another season, but has now been told to report for pre-season training at the Etihad Stadium. The teenager also qualifies as both 'homegrown' and 'club trained'. The Premier League champions believe Rekik is now ready to make the final step up and also help meet their squad quota requirements. The news will be a blow to West Bromwich Albion and Southampton as both clubs were showing interest in a season-long loan deal for the City centre-back.

Surely if he's only 19, we won't have any need to allocate a place for him in the squad quota?

 

[cityboy1]

City convinced by new Dutch star

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City have told Dutch starlet Karim Rekik they aren't planning to loan him out again and want him in the first-team squad next season. The 19-year-old defender spent last season on loan with PSV Eindhoven and his form was impressive enough to receive a call-up for the Netherlands. Rekik has come through City's academy and was willing to stay in Holland for another season, but has now been told to report for pre-season training at the Etihad Stadium. The teenager also qualifies as both 'homegrown' and 'club trained'. The Premier League champions believe Rekik is now ready to make the final step up and also help meet their squad quota requirements. The news will be a blow to West Bromwich Albion and Southampton as both clubs were showing interest in a season-long loan deal for the City centre-back.

Surely if he's only 19, we won't have any need to allocate a place for him in the squad quota?

He doesn't i think they mean when he's 21 he'll count as home grown and club trained?

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

City convinced by new Dutch star

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City have told Dutch starlet Karim Rekik they aren't planning to loan him out again and want him in the first-team squad next season. The 19-year-old defender spent last season on loan with PSV Eindhoven and his form was impressive enough to receive a call-up for the Netherlands. Rekik has come through City's academy and was willing to stay in Holland for another season, but has now been told to report for pre-season training at the Etihad Stadium. The teenager also qualifies as both 'homegrown' and 'club trained'. The Premier League champions believe Rekik is now ready to make the final step up and also help meet their squad quota requirements. The news will be a blow to West Bromwich Albion and Southampton as both clubs were showing interest in a season-long loan deal for the City centre-back.

Surely if he's only 19, we won't have any need to allocate a place for him in the squad quota?

He doesn't i think they mean when he's 21 he'll count as home grown and club trained?

That's what the article should be saying, but it's closing statement that there will be no loan deals would seem to indicate the reporter doesn't understand the rules!

 

[Rorz88]

Kompany playing left side of the centre backs today by the way boys

 

[bluechampion7891]

So, still Jan Vertonghen fans here?

 

[Tron Coltrane]

Kompany playing left side of the centre backs today by the way boys

I would argue that's because the idea that a player is exclusively a "left-sided" or "right-sided" centre back is a myth, and a silly one at that. World class players seem to be just fine playing their exact same position but shifting a few feet over.

 

[BigOscar]

Kompany playing left side of the centre backs today by the way boys

I would argue that's because the idea that a player is exclusively a "left-sided" or "right-sided" centre back is a myth, and a silly one at that. World class players seem to be just fine playing their exact same position but shifting a few feet over.

Then you are wrong. Most CB's have a prefered side in which they are far, far more proficient. It's not remotely as simple as just "shifting a few feet", it completely changes the angles, the direction of runners you need to worry about and the way you shepherd players.

Just for one example, for a right footed RCB, you're used to shepherding people wide, away from the goal and towards your strong tackling foot. If you did the same at LCB, you'd be showing them inside into shooting position, or if you did the opposite you'd be showing them onto your weaker tackling foot instead. It makes a huge difference to the way you play the game

 

[Tron Coltrane]

Kompany playing left side of the centre backs today by the way boys

I would argue that's because the idea that a player is exclusively a "left-sided" or "right-sided" centre back is a myth, and a silly one at that. World class players seem to be just fine playing their exact same position but shifting a few feet over.

Then you are wrong. Most CB's have a prefered side in which they are far, far more proficient. It's not remotely as simple as just "shifting a few feet", it completely changes the angles, the direction of runners you need to worry about and the way you shepherd players.

Just for one example, for a right footed RCB, you're used to shepherding people wide, away from the goal and towards your strong tackling foot. If you did the same at LCB, you'd be showing them inside into shooting position, or if you did the opposite you'd be showing them onto your weaker tackling foot instead. It makes a huge difference to the way you play the game

Do you have quotes from players talking about their preferences, or are those just cultivated from your intuitive understanding of the players when you see them out there?

Pass me a quote on the subject, or show me a statistical breakdown with a sample size long enough to meaningful -- with Player A performing admirably on one side and poorly on another -- and I'll settle for "Then you are wrong." Until then I don't think I am. Nothing has ever led me to believe I'm wrong. I've been watching the game for awhile and have seen players switch sides seamlessly, over and over, ad nauseum. It just doesn't seem to be a problem except for a few people who prefer to overthink the game and bombard it with analysis.