Champions League Games 5/6 Dec

The wankfest for the rags winning tonight and topping an easy group is sickening. Please don't let them beat us on Sunday it would be unbearable!

It's weird but you actually want the rags and the scousers to win the group in hopes of the possibility of getting Basel or Sevilla in the next round. It would be a much harder draw for us otherwise.
 
Chelsea finish 2nd means the draw will be slightly harder for us but much harder for them. The can only draw Besiktas, Barcelona or PSG (assuming the scouse top their group).
So they have a 1/3 chance of a decent draw, but we're not much better off now, with 1/2 chance of a decent draw (Real Madrid, Bayern, Juventus, and 3 easier teams). If Liverpool come second, it would mean Chelsea have 1/2 chance of a decent draw, and we'd only have a 2/5 chance.
 
It's weird but you actually want the rags and the scousers to win the group in hopes of the possibility of getting Basel or Sevilla in the next round. It would be a much harder draw for us otherwise.
Or the scousers get Basel and rags get Sevilla while we get Bayern or real nice draw for all concerned..
 
So they have a 1/3 chance of a decent draw, but we're not much better off now, with 1/2 chance of a decent draw (Real Madrid, Bayern, Juventus, and 3 easier teams). If Liverpool come second, it would mean Chelsea have 1/2 chance of a decent draw, and we'd only have a 2/5 chance.

At the moment I would say we have 2/3's chance of a decent draw, don't think Juve are quite the same side this season. Real and Bayern are who we want to avoid, probably better than both of them at the moment but they will turn it on in the knockout stages.
 

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