charity workers around town

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uweuweuwe said:
Woildnt mind but half these people don't belong to the charity they represent and employed by an agency on behalf of the charity. So I just inform them that I wont give to a charity that can afford to use these companies or ask them how much of their salary they'll be giving.


Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
One thing I am interested in is how many of these 'charities' have Chief Executives and do they get paid the minimum wage or are they part of the army of Chief Executives who believe charity begins in their own pay packets. I am staggered by the money that some of them are on!


I can't understand why people get annoyed by being approached in the street - it really doesnt signifcantly impact you in anyway whatsoever. Just smile say no thanks and move on. How hard is that? Talk about first world problems!! If this is all you have to worry about then you have a pretty cushy number.

I know some people who have done this job and they have been sworn at, spat at and punched after being ignored for most of the day adn standing in the pissing cold rain all day - not much fun eh!

As for them being paid (or indeed anyone who works for a Charity getting paid) again i dont get your problem. As long as they generate a positive revenue for the Charity (which they do) then surely it is in the benefit of the Charity and therefore a positive (assuming that you support the goals of the Charity in the first place).

Disclaimer: My other half works for a Charity so i have a vested interest but i also know a hell of a lot more about it than most of you guys.
 
I did work experience for one of the huge charities when I was looking at a change of career and the complaints we got about the street and home fundraisers were incredible. They were poorly trained, lacked good knowledge on the organisation and being excessive and highly pressured in their approach. I got talking to one of the fundraising staff in the office and the attrition rate with supporters signed up in this way was over 90% in a year. The charity did make a little money but that was it. It's just ethical sales. Nothing else.

If you're male and an attractive fundraiser did try and persuade you to support the cause they were working for that day (or vice versa if you're female) then please just contact the charity directly and support them with a regular gift that way. It's more cost-effective. The problem is that enough people don't bother.
 
Southbanken said:
uweuweuwe said:
Woildnt mind but half these people don't belong to the charity they represent and employed by an agency on behalf of the charity. So I just inform them that I wont give to a charity that can afford to use these companies or ask them how much of their salary they'll be giving.


Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
One thing I am interested in is how many of these 'charities' have Chief Executives and do they get paid the minimum wage or are they part of the army of Chief Executives who believe charity begins in their own pay packets. I am staggered by the money that some of them are on!


I can't understand why people get annoyed by being approached in the street - it really doesnt signifcantly impact you in anyway whatsoever. Just smile say no thanks and move on. How hard is that? Talk about first world problems!! If this is all you have to worry about then you have a pretty cushy number.

I know some people who have done this job and they have been sworn at, spat at and punched after being ignored for most of the day adn standing in the pissing cold rain all day - not much fun eh!

As for them being paid (or indeed anyone who works for a Charity getting paid) again i dont get your problem. As long as they generate a positive revenue for the Charity (which they do) then surely it is in the benefit of the Charity and therefore a positive (assuming that you support the goals of the Charity in the first place).

Disclaimer: My other half works for a Charity so i have a vested interest but i also know a hell of a lot more about it than most of you guys.

I haven't got a problem. The issue I raised was the remuneration of CEOs of national charities. It is ironic that some of them them have, in charitable terms. salaries that are quite staggering!
 
peoffrey said:
If you're male and an attractive fundraiser did try and persuade you to support the cause they were working for that day (or vice versa if you're female) then please just contact the charity directly and support them with a regular gift that way. It's more cost-effective. The problem is that enough people don't bother.


If i do this though then the chugger has worked, even if indirectly, and guess what - if this happened with any kind of regularity the larger charitys would spot it and be able to measure this and attribute any local uplift of cash donations to the presence of chuggers.

PS for those who claim it is commision based, I am pretty sure, that this is NOT the case, certainly from memory for the 3 large (UK based) charities that my gf has worked for.

Agree that it is not the most cost effective way of raising funds and has a high attrition rate, but guess what - it does make money, if it didnt then the large charities would can it instantly.<br /><br />-- Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:08 pm --<br /><br />
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
Southbanken said:
uweuweuwe said:
Woildnt mind but half these people don't belong to the charity they represent and employed by an agency on behalf of the charity. So I just inform them that I wont give to a charity that can afford to use these companies or ask them how much of their salary they'll be giving.


Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
One thing I am interested in is how many of these 'charities' have Chief Executives and do they get paid the minimum wage or are they part of the army of Chief Executives who believe charity begins in their own pay packets. I am staggered by the money that some of them are on!


I can't understand why people get annoyed by being approached in the street - it really doesnt signifcantly impact you in anyway whatsoever. Just smile say no thanks and move on. How hard is that? Talk about first world problems!! If this is all you have to worry about then you have a pretty cushy number.

I know some people who have done this job and they have been sworn at, spat at and punched after being ignored for most of the day adn standing in the pissing cold rain all day - not much fun eh!

As for them being paid (or indeed anyone who works for a Charity getting paid) again i dont get your problem. As long as they generate a positive revenue for the Charity (which they do) then surely it is in the benefit of the Charity and therefore a positive (assuming that you support the goals of the Charity in the first place).

Disclaimer: My other half works for a Charity so i have a vested interest but i also know a hell of a lot more about it than most of you guys.

I haven't got a problem. The issue I raised was the remuneration of CEOs of national charities. It is ironic that some of them them have, in charitable terms. salaries that are quite staggering!

I would bet that their salaries are much lower than a CEO of a comparable private organisation of similar size and structure. Some of the larger charities are as a big as a large bluechip company and need management of an equivilant capability, to get this they have to pay a decent wage. Not sure what your point is.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
Southbanken said:
uweuweuwe said:
Woildnt mind but half these people don't belong to the charity they represent and employed by an agency on behalf of the charity. So I just inform them that I wont give to a charity that can afford to use these companies or ask them how much of their salary they'll be giving.


Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
One thing I am interested in is how many of these 'charities' have Chief Executives and do they get paid the minimum wage or are they part of the army of Chief Executives who believe charity begins in their own pay packets. I am staggered by the money that some of them are on!


I can't understand why people get annoyed by being approached in the street - it really doesnt signifcantly impact you in anyway whatsoever. Just smile say no thanks and move on. How hard is that? Talk about first world problems!! If this is all you have to worry about then you have a pretty cushy number.

I know some people who have done this job and they have been sworn at, spat at and punched after being ignored for most of the day adn standing in the pissing cold rain all day - not much fun eh!

As for them being paid (or indeed anyone who works for a Charity getting paid) again i dont get your problem. As long as they generate a positive revenue for the Charity (which they do) then surely it is in the benefit of the Charity and therefore a positive (assuming that you support the goals of the Charity in the first place).

Disclaimer: My other half works for a Charity so i have a vested interest but i also know a hell of a lot more about it than most of you guys.

I haven't got a problem. The issue I raised was the remuneration of CEOs of national charities. It is ironic that some of them them have, in charitable terms. salaries that are quite staggering!

National Charities are big organisations that employ hundreds of people and run complex charitable and fund raising activities. That needs to be managed competently and therefore has a price attached. If they only employed people who were prepared to do the job for some nominal salary they wouldn't end up doing much good or raising much money. That said, the extent of the gravy chain some charities is hard to justify.

As to chuggers, they're just a vehicle for guilt tripping the vulnerable in to paying over more than they can afford and hoping they don't realise they can cancel the direct debit instruction before the first payment goes out. The ethics are questionable and charities should know better.
 
Southbanken said:
uweuweuwe said:
Woildnt mind but half these people don't belong to the charity they represent and employed by an agency on behalf of the charity. So I just inform them that I wont give to a charity that can afford to use these companies or ask them how much of their salary they'll be giving.


Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
One thing I am interested in is how many of these 'charities' have Chief Executives and do they get paid the minimum wage or are they part of the army of Chief Executives who believe charity begins in their own pay packets. I am staggered by the money that some of them are on!


I can't understand why people get annoyed by being approached in the street - it really doesnt signifcantly impact you in anyway whatsoever. Just smile say no thanks and move on. How hard is that? Talk about first world problems!! If this is all you have to worry about then you have a pretty cushy number.

I know some people who have done this job and they have been sworn at, spat at and punched after being ignored for most of the day adn standing in the pissing cold rain all day - not much fun eh!

As for them being paid (or indeed anyone who works for a Charity getting paid) again i dont get your problem. As long as they generate a positive revenue for the Charity (which they do) then surely it is in the benefit of the Charity and therefore a positive (assuming that you support the goals of the Charity in the first place).

Disclaimer: My other half works for a Charity so i have a vested interest but i also know a hell of a lot more about it than most of you guys.
We'll you can politely day not interested but they keep harassing, that's what is annoying to me. Not to mention my housemate is signed up to one and they keep calling him to up his donation!
 
But it's not just say no and move on. Because there's one 20 yeards down who pounces on you. Then if you walk that route 4 times a day it gets annoying. Then they're back the next day for a different charity.

I work for a charity, I volunteer for a charity and have been bucket collecting for a charity. I know what it's like. Doing it thecway they do puts me off donating and the sooner they're banned the better.
 
Keep walking, if they don't get out of your way as you walk into them bellow "get out of my face" At them.
 
BlueBearBoots said:
des hardi said:
now here`s some use for the water cannon`s!


Totally agree I work in town and they hunt in a pack on market street. I just carry on walking, say no and glare at them . If you'd seen my glare you'd know why they leave me alone

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Alright Marty!
 
I simply love stopping for a chit chat with these friendly, caring types. Sometimes I spend 20 minutes with one, then the next, then the next - asking them about their interests, how they first became drawn to charitable work, how it makes then feel to be helping the homeless/kids/animals and other idle banter.

Then I push them in to a canal.

wankers.
 
Southbanken said:
uweuweuwe said:
Woildnt mind but half these people don't belong to the charity they represent and employed by an agency on behalf of the charity. So I just inform them that I wont give to a charity that can afford to use these companies or ask them how much of their salary they'll be giving.


Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
One thing I am interested in is how many of these 'charities' have Chief Executives and do they get paid the minimum wage or are they part of the army of Chief Executives who believe charity begins in their own pay packets. I am staggered by the money that some of them are on!


I can't understand why people get annoyed by being approached in the street - it really doesnt signifcantly impact you in anyway whatsoever. Just smile say no thanks and move on. How hard is that? Talk about first world problems!! If this is all you have to worry about then you have a pretty cushy number.

I know some people who have done this job and they have been sworn at, spat at and punched after being ignored for most of the day adn standing in the pissing cold rain all day - not much fun eh!

As for them being paid (or indeed anyone who works for a Charity getting paid) again i dont get your problem. As long as they generate a positive revenue for the Charity (which they do) then surely it is in the benefit of the Charity and therefore a positive (assuming that you support the goals of the Charity in the first place).

Disclaimer: My other half works for a Charity so i have a vested interest but i also know a hell of a lot more about it than most of you guys.


OK Could you clear up a few points then please.
1) Are Chuggers comission based.
2) Are they paid above the min wage.
3) Do they have set targets.
4) What percentage actually get's to the charity.
5) What's the average wage of a CEO or Director of these companies.
 
Whitworth Park said:
Southbanken said:
uweuweuwe said:
Woildnt mind but half these people don't belong to the charity they represent and employed by an agency on behalf of the charity. So I just inform them that I wont give to a charity that can afford to use these companies or ask them how much of their salary they'll be giving.


Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
One thing I am interested in is how many of these 'charities' have Chief Executives and do they get paid the minimum wage or are they part of the army of Chief Executives who believe charity begins in their own pay packets. I am staggered by the money that some of them are on!


I can't understand why people get annoyed by being approached in the street - it really doesnt signifcantly impact you in anyway whatsoever. Just smile say no thanks and move on. How hard is that? Talk about first world problems!! If this is all you have to worry about then you have a pretty cushy number.

I know some people who have done this job and they have been sworn at, spat at and punched after being ignored for most of the day adn standing in the pissing cold rain all day - not much fun eh!

As for them being paid (or indeed anyone who works for a Charity getting paid) again i dont get your problem. As long as they generate a positive revenue for the Charity (which they do) then surely it is in the benefit of the Charity and therefore a positive (assuming that you support the goals of the Charity in the first place).

Disclaimer: My other half works for a Charity so i have a vested interest but i also know a hell of a lot more about it than most of you guys.


OK Could you clear up a few points then please.
1) Are Chuggers comission based.
2) Are they paid above the min wage.
3) Do they have set targets.
4) What percentage actually get's to the charity.
5) What's the average wage of a CEO or Director of these companies.

Average salary of a UK CEO is reported at a little under £100k per annum. The CEO of Save The Children was reported in the DT last August to have risen from £140k to £170k. The paper also reported that there are thirty people at the DEC who receive in excess of £100k.
 
I actually had one of these annoying jerks on my doorstep not long ago. Took a good five minutes to get rid of the berk, and involved me listing the charities I give to, among other things. (I have several actual standing orders - aren't I saintly?)

One day, In Stockport, I heard one of these people being so rude to a client - I think he actually told him to 'fuck off' - that I wrote to the charity concerned, complaining and telling them that in future I would not be donating a single penny to their coffers.

They should be rounded up by the Police, taken before a magistrate and fined £500 for harassing members of the public. They go far beyond what is normal or reasonable for either street collections, surveys, or even actual beggars. I would sooner give my spare cash to a random Tory MP.
 
My wife gave to charity by standing order. Red Cross it was.
After a while we started getting phone call's saying how much good the
donation was doing and if she upped it how much more good she could do.
We then had one turn up on the doorstep with the same pitch.
That was the last straw,
She cancelled it.
 
Just tell them, and anyone else who mithers you for a direct debit payment, that you're not allowed to have a bank account, credit card or debit card as you're an undischarged bankrupt. Works every time and the helpless look on their faces is a joy to watch as they've not been trained to deal with that particular response.

I do give to charity but on my own terms and not via direct debit or to professional chuggers whose employers take the first 3 months of your direct debit donations as commission. So basically they can all fuck off.
 
sometimes they come to the door and I always say I already give to your charity, they soon go away, but if im in town I just say no and walk on by
 
OK Could you clear up a few points then please.
1) Are Chuggers comission based.
2) Are they paid above the min wage.
3) Do they have set targets.

when i worked for Avanta they wanted me to send customers for vacancies for these twats.

the pay for the chuggers was £7 ph with a £100 bonus if they got 10 DD's signed up per week
 
I always just say that I've had issues with my bank account and security so it's not a good time, but I will look into it.

Works every time.
 

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