I know one out of 1.3bn doesn’t alter the analysis, but I’m certain an Indian guy, a striker, played for Bury about 20 years ago.
Baichung Bhutia.
I know one out of 1.3bn doesn’t alter the analysis, but I’m certain an Indian guy, a striker, played for Bury about 20 years ago.
For me, China's national football team has suffered from the aspirations of the Super League trying to be a major power and importing big name players like Drogba, Anelka, Tevez, Hulk, Oscar, etc, rather than trying to develop players. In the late 90's and early 00's, China had quite a decent national team, they qualified for their first World Cup in 2002, reached the final of the Asian Cup in 2004, and gave established teams like France and Germany tough games, albeit in friendlies. They defeated France and held Germany and Brazil to draws, in stark contrast to losing 6-0 in a friendly at home to Wales in 2018. At that time China had players playing in the Premier League and Bundesliga (Jihai and Li Tie at Everton, Shao Jiayi at Cottbus) now Wu Lei playing for Espanyol is the only Chinese player playing outside China. The strongest teams in Asia at the moment are Japan, South Korea, Australia and Iran, they all have something in common; they produce players and export them. China doesn't do this. Instead, with the backing of the Chinese government, they've tried to create a rival to the Premier League by signing big name overseas players like the one's I mentioned earlier with big wages, which has also tied down Chinese players. If you're on big money, there is little incentive to go abroad and improve. The Chinese Super League bubble looks like it has burst. Jiangsu Suning have folded, they had some decent Brazilian players who have gone elsewhere now. There is a belief that the football novelty in the government has worn off and the heavy financial backing will ease. Big name signings are expected to reduce. If that's true, it could be a good thing. It might mean more focus on developing young players. In the AFC Champions League all the Chinese teams involved played their youth teams against senior opposition. A sign of the direction Chinese football is taking? That's what they need to do, because China are very weak at the moment.
Its a bit of myth that India doesn't care about football. The areas of India where the Portuguese had a strong influence are very football passionate. The derby between East Bengal and Mohun Bagan used to get crowds of over 100,000. The Indian Super League has helped Indian football a lot and has risen the profile of the game, hence why CFG aquired Mumbai City. It's a fertile market. Indonesian football has been really hurt by corruption and terrible mismanagement. Indonesia were banned by FIFA for over a year because of it. If you want to see a bent match, watch this:
Crazy Horse was his name.I know one out of 1.3bn doesn’t alter the analysis, but I’m certain an Indian guy, a striker, played for Bury about 20 years ago.
And can I assume the Chinese don't play cricket as they've eaten all the bats?I read somewhere that Indians and Pakistanis are a problem on the pitch.
Every time they get a corner they want to open up a shop
If all the sad cunts in these countries didn’t glory support English clubs and had more pride in where they were from and supported their local team that represents them and their city; their clubs would have a greater income, therefore more money to invest in player development.China, India, Pakistan, USA and Indonesia together make up almost 50% of the worlds population yet of those "3.7 billion current" only 57 of those (49 Americans) have played in premier league since it's inauguration.
Why have so few players from China and India been able to\ chosen to play in the Premier league or at a top level?
I haven't checked the other European leagues but suspect this is similar across the top leagues.
USA aside [10th], are the other nations just not very good at football, I know other sports are more popular, but why barely any top level footballers with such huge populations?
Country Players Population Fifa ranking China 7 1,445,000,000 71India 0 1,396,000,000 105Pakistan 1 226,000,000 198United States 49 333,000,000 10Indonesia 0 276,000,000 174 3,676,000,000
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China Tyias Browning – Everton – 2014–16 Dong Fangzhuo – Manchester United – 2006–07 Li Tie – Everton – 2002–04 Li Weifeng – Everton – 2002–03 Sun Jihai – Manchester City – 2002–08 Nico Yennaris – Arsenal – 2011–12 Zheng Zhi – Charlton Athletic – 2006–07
Pakistan Zesh Rehman – Fulham – 2003–06
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Wang Xiao- Defender from Shenyang, China
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Sun Jihai
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Sun Jihai is a Chinese former footballer who played in the English Premier League. He is one of the most well-known footballers in China. He was the first East Asian footballer to score in the Premier League when he scored a goal for Manchester City in October 2002,[1] and also the first Chinese footballer to score in the UEFA Cup. Sun was a member of the Chinese national team that qualified for the 2002 FIFA World Cup, the country's only appearance at the World Cup.
Was with Bury but they were in what is now League 1 I believe.Baichung Bhutia.