City 0 Oldham 0 1985 - week before Charlton 5-1

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Anyone remember that game?
Would we have gone up if we had won?
How did we manage not to win it?
 
In between Oldham and Charlton there was the infamous game at Notts County which had we won would have seen us promoted.
Yes recall the Oldham game, they always seemed to get one over on us at Maine Road. The team were stuttering towards the finishing line not helped with loads of injuries and jittering nerves.
Steve Redmond was on the bench (aged 17) at Meadow Lane and Earl Barrett (18) against Charlton.

I think it was Pompey we pipped in the end for the final spot and mainly down to the excellent Paul Simpson inspired performance at their place a few weeks before
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
In between Oldham and Charlton there was the infamous game at Notts County which had we won would have seen us promoted.
Yes recall the Oldham game, they always seemed to get one over on us at Maine Road. The team were stuttering towards the finishing line not helped with loads of injuries and jittering nerves.
Steve Redmond was on the bench (aged 17) at Meadow Lane and Earl Barrett (18) against Charlton.

I think it was Pompey we pipped in the end for the final spot and mainly down to the excellent Paul Simpson inspired performance at their place a few weeks before
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Yes - I remember we were cruising it until Easter and we had Cardiff at home and nearly got beat - and Simbo saved us and then got and stayed in the side - having previously completely disappeared for years after making his debut about 3 years earlier (seemed an eternity at that age for me anyway). Dont really remember the Oldham game but do remember the disappointment of Notts C when it looked like we were going to throw it all away!
 
isab23502 said:
Anyone remember that game?
Would we have gone up if we had won?
How did we manage not to win it?
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If we'd won it, we'd have still needed a point from the last two games IIRC (Notts County away and Charlton at home). We had quite an injury-hit side, I think, and the young Jamie Hoyland played up front. We were well on top in the first half and it looked a matter of time before we scored. Then, just before the break, the Oldham centre half Gary Hoolickin launched a shocker of a tackle from behind on Hoyland, breaking his leg. He was on the ground in agony, clearly badly hurt, but the ref Peter Willis - a tall, bald copper from Durham known for, let's say, an authoritarian style - waved play on. The City players, most notably Andy May, implored Willis to stop the game, which he did - to send May off for dissent.

I don't recall poor old Hoyland ever playing for City's first team again. In the second half, with ten men, we were unable to assert our superiority and we ended up settling for a point. However, if the game had been properly reffed, it would have been 11 v 10 in our favour in the second period, in which case we'd probably have won.

Willis, of course, went into history a couple of weeks later by becoming the first ref to send off a player in the FA Cup final (United's Kevin Moran, against Everton). At Maine Road after he'd dismissed May, meanwhile, he was hit on his bald head by a pie thrown by an irate Main Stand fan as he left the field at HT. I can't remember whether we were fined for it - there was certainly talk that we would be - but we had to take steps to ensure that players and officials had greater protection from objects thrown by fans when emerging from/heading into the tunnel.

Just seen moon's post when I was composing this one. Yes - see above. He f**king well deserved it, as well. In case anyone's in any doubt, Peter Willis was a c**t. Not as much of one as Alf Grey, but a c**t all the same. What he did that day was one of the worst pieces of officiating I've ever seen.
 
petrusha said:
If we'd won it, we'd have still needed a point from the last two games IIRC (Notts County away and Charlton at home). We had quite an injury-hit side, I think, and the young Jamie Hoyland played up front. We were well on top in the first half and it looked a matter of time before we scored. Then, just before the break, the Oldham centre half Gary Hoolickin launched a shocker of a tackle from behind on Hoyland, breaking his leg. He was on the ground in agony, clearly badly hurt, but the ref Peter Willis - a tall, bald copper from Durham known for, let's say, an authoritarian style - waved play on. The City players, most notably Andy May, implored Willis to stop the game, which he did - to send May off for dissent.

I don't recall poor old Hoyland ever playing for City's first team again. In the second half, with ten men, we were unable to assert our superiority and we ended up settling for a point. However, if the game had been properly reffed, it would have been 11 v 10 in our favour in the second period, in which case we'd probably have won.

Willis, of course, went into history a couple of weeks later by becoming the first ref to send off a player in the FA Cup final (United's Kevin Moran, against Everton). At Maine Road after he'd dismissed May, meanwhile, he was hit on his bald head by a pie thrown by an irate Main Stand fan as he left the field at HT. I can't remember whether we were fined for it - there was certainly talk that we would be - but we had to take steps to ensure that players and officials had greater protection from objects thrown by fans when emerging from/heading into the tunnel.

Just seen moon's post when I was composing this one. Yes - see above. He f**king well deserved it, as well. In case anyone's in any doubt, Peter Willis was a c**t. Not as much of one as Alf Grey, but a c**t all the same. What he did that day was one of the worst pieces of officiating I've ever seen.
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I remember Hoolickin, didn't we send a team for his testimonial a year or two later? More worryingly although I can recall plenty from the Pompey game the previous week and the chaotic Notts County game the following Monday I can recall little else from the Oldham game other than the incident with Hoyland and the meat pie being thrown, hopefully it was the standard issue with a rock-hard crust. ;-)
 
lancs blue said:
I remember Hoolickin, didn't we send a team for his testimonial a year or two later? More worryingly although I can recall plenty from the Pompey game the previous week and the chaotic Notts County game the following Monday I can recall little else from the Oldham game other than the incident with Hoyland and the meat pie being thrown, hopefully it was the standard issue with a rock-hard crust. ;-)
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and cold!
 
Bad tempered affair as I recall, in the Kippax that day near the front, half way line. They kicked us off the pitch, which was the norm those days. Went to Notts County the week after another shambles, made the Charlton game all that much sweeter
 
moon said:
Didn't a Meat pie get thrown at the ref at the Oldham game when he sent Andy May off ?
Huge City following at Notts County sure it was a Bank Holiday Monday
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Reckon there was 15,000 there or there abouts that day city took Nottingham that day.
 
EL APACHE TEVEZ said:
Reckon there was 15,000 there or there abouts that day city took Nottingham that day.
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About right, gave us the home end that day, think the official crowd was around 18k, with supposedly 13k Blues, only City could be 3-0 at HT! Billy McNeil trying to calm down the fans near me at the break, they should have sent Eddie Large out
 
Bloody hell that Notts County game brings back memories.
Remember Billy Mcneill on the loudspeaker telling us to behave at HT after we were 3-0 down.
 
moon said:
Didn't a Meat pie get thrown at the ref at the Oldham game when he sent Andy May off ?
Huge City following at Notts County sure it was a Bank Holiday Monday
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Andy May scored with a (looping) header in the Charlton 5-1 promotion game. Can't remember the rules if you had been sent off in the previous week - was the Notts County the 1-1 game? It was a bloody long time ago!
 
Just looked on the history page
Andy May played the next 2 games after he was sent off ( Notts County and Charlton) but wasn't in the team for the first 2 games of the following season
Don't think bans were instant like they are now
 
moon said:
Just looked on the history page
Andy May played the next 2 games after he was sent off ( Notts County and Charlton) but wasn't in the team for the first 2 games of the following season
Don't think bans were instant like they are now
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Think bans had a 10 day delay back then, though remember Melrose scored an incredible header vs Charlton not May? Phillips scored at least one as did Simmo.
 
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