City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

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Lets get our lawyers to work on it.

That's a brilliant idea Pam - you should suggest it to the club, as I bet it hasn't even occurred to them.

No need for sarcasm. What I meant is, don't be rolling over for the twats.

Sorry Pam - I sometimes forget your mantle as City's Most Psychotic Fan.
I think most sentient folk take it as read that we won't just accept this like a charge for late library books.
Have you ever tried St John's Wort, or cognitive behavioural therapy?

 

[aguero93:20]

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Matt Cutler ‏@mattycutler · 11m
Some Man City/PSG points of appeal: (1) FFP contravenes EU competition law; (2) sanctions are disproportionate to the offence; ...

Matt Cutler ‏@mattycutler · 10m
... (3) how can UEFA calculate the fair market price of a sponsorship deal? (re: Man City/Etihad and PSG/Qatar Tourism Authority)

Legality of FFP coming right into the Public Domain across a lot of channels this morning, PSG and MCFC gearing up for a challenge?

How many years could it take to get this to the European Court though.
It was reported that the Dupont case would take up to five years.

He'll be dealing with the European Court of Justice, our first avenue of appeal would be CAS, we'd get heard a lot quicker.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

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Anyway, fuck it. Bigger fish to fry just now.

You still working in the chippy?

She knows her plaice.

 

[Chippy_boy]

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I'd imagine the club are geared up to challenge but sensitive to how it is perceived. We've been trying to conduct a charm offensive for sme time and the last thing we need is to be seen as the club who take on the 'rules' the rest of the football world/media seem to agree with - despite us all knowing how flawed they are.

Short term we might concede to a few things while longer term quielty supporting someone else's challenge.

Inciteful comment above I think.

We have conducted ourselves with the utmost of dignity for the past few years and it's pretty clear that we place a high value on maintaining a highly professional and respected, admired, image.

(It is after all part of what the whole project is all about when you think about it, the promotion of Abu Dhabi, so our image is bound to be important to us, isn't it.)

Bitter court room battle is surely not high on our list of preferred options. But that said, reluctantly it may have to come to it if taking a right shafting is the only alternative.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

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Is anyone surprised? This is a photo of UEFA's licensing Committee

And look who is front left centre, Chairman of the UEFA Licensing Committee - David Gill, former CEO of Manchester United.

Former CEO of Manchester United???

Only a few days ago the press was telling us he is part of the team that will select the new Rag manager... hardly former is it?

Ray Wilkins is on it as well!

 

[Lavinda Past]

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Anyway, fuck it. Bigger fish to fry just now.

You still working in the chippy?

She knows her plaice.

And how to fillet

 

[Zabbasbeard]

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No, I just doubt UEFA are stupid enough to action these level of sanctions without knowing precisely where they stand legally (although, I wouldn't put it past down).

Again, it shouldn't be near £50 million, and it shouldn't be near the same level as PSG. The squad reduction would be more than adequate.

OK I'll outline a few basic points for you:
-The EU and EU law take precedence over everyone else - they're the biggest fish in the pond
-You cannot limit equity investment under EU law
-You cannot limit salaries under EU law without the prior agreement of the workers affected, this hasn't been done with footballers
-FFPR aren't fit for their stated purpose - they limit investment not debt. (so not viable)
-Places in the Champions League have never been awarded via invite, they are awarded via merit and have been every season - top 3 in England, Spain, Germany plus Playoff round winners etc etc etc - UEFA can claim it's an invite only competition, but it won't stand up in a court of law
-Antitrust law forbids Cartels - the CL will be in danger of being named such a Cartel if it's turned into a closed shop through UEFA regulations.
Comprende?

When you see that mate, its mad isn't it? imagine what a TOP barrister would make of it all, no offence to yourself like

Crazy. Aguero93:20 lays this out nicely and this is where, with a healthy dash of patience and rationality, playing a long game, we can win this. It may be Dupont that wins the challenge. Can we help him? Can he help us? Over to MCFC.

 

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Re: City & FFP (continued)

Matt Cutler ‏@mattycutler · 11m
Some Man City/PSG points of appeal: (1) FFP contravenes EU competition law; (2) sanctions are disproportionate to the offence; ...

Matt Cutler ‏@mattycutler · 10m
... (3) how can UEFA calculate the fair market price of a sponsorship deal? (re: Man City/Etihad and PSG/Qatar Tourism Authority)

Legality of FFP coming right into the Public Domain across a lot of channels this morning, PSG and MCFC gearing up for a challenge?

How many years could it take to get this to the European Court though.
It was reported that the Dupont case would take up to five years.

A judgement is actually expected on that case next year.

 

[BWTAC]

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Anyway, fuck it. Bigger fish to fry just now.

You still working in the chippy?

She knows her plaice.

Careful now, you don't want to get battered off Pam.

 

[dario2739]

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Is anyone surprised? This is a photo of UEFA's licensing Committee

And look who is front left centre, Chairman of the UEFA Licensing Committee - David Gill, former CEO of Manchester United.

Does anybody know who they all are and their European club alliegances?