City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[bluevengence]

Rag twunts on Sad Caf still going on about how Twatini has taken a City/PSG bribe. Too funny.

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[gordondaviesmoustache]

I hope now all them daft Villa/Newcastle/Spurs/Everton fans will finally realise that this benefits their club and gives them a chance of being took over.

Oh I'm pretty sure they've worked it out by now. It took a while, but they got there.

 

[waspish]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

The way the media now are saying oh city will be spending big this summer because of FFP might be eased, is like we would be unable to spend big without this FFP relaxation.. so we spend 150m it's not that Manchester City have worked hard to balance the books and now can spend big it's the FFP relaxation...

 

[BlueAnorak]

My post on the Telegraph article

Ah an article on FFP by the Telegraph. One I've been waiting for but never expected to see. It takes an announcement like this from King Rat (Platini) for me to be able to make my points, which are:

1. A week and a half ago UEFA announced the FFP fines and restrictions for next season. City were NOT on the lists. That means that within ONE set of season accounts, MCFC became FFP compliant. This also means:
- The previous fine is commuted to €20m in total.
- There are no squad restrictions going forward.
- There are no transfer spending restrictions on MCFC transfer spending this summer.

2. Not one so-called newspaper picked up on the story. Probably because it doesn't follow the agenda of the press pack as a whole.Only ESPN sport picked up on it.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.espnfc.co.uk/club/manchester-city/382/blog/post/2444370/manchester-city-get-financial-fair-play-boost-from-uefa" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.espnfc.co.uk/club/manchester ... -from-uefa</a>
so a big well done from me to them on that.

3. The only possible reason that City could have been fined so heavily yet pass FFP again so quickly was if City could not discount pre-June 2010 wages from last season's FFP targets:
- City have been working with UEFA to meet FFP targets. They certainly did not ignore then unlike PSG.
- UEFA changed the FFP submission spreadsheet AFTER City's 2011-12 accounts were made public.
- I have it on good authority that if you use the previous spreadsheet City would have been close to passing FFP last season ( so they would only have been able to have been hit with a small fine). Indeed some City fans who are whizzes at accounts and actually have the old spreadsheet say it is very easy to make a small change based on values in City's accounts to force exclusion of pre June 2010 wages.
- This a a complete and utter scandal that no one in the so called investigative press has even bothered to pick up on.
- Even City decided it wasn't worth the cost of lawyers to save the price of half a player in the transfer market, so decided to take a 'pinch'.

4. Now City are FFP restriction free and can potentially splurge more than Utd (no debt you see). As such, the need for FFP is no longer there so why hurt AC Milan Inter Milan and others when the target is no longer attainable by FFP weaponry. Hence today's announcement.

5. I'm sure Gill, Rummenigge etc will move on to finding another way to kill City but it's just got a bit more difficult without hurting the members of the G14 Cartel. I await their next attempt with interest.

 

[birchwoodgingerste]

its gonna be like a gunfight at the ok coral with the big teams getting outside investment everbody after the same players so i dont see in the long run how this benefits us as the best players will join the historically big teams.

 

[whp.blue]

its gonna be like a gunfight at the ok coral with the big teams getting outside investment everbody after the same players so i dont see in the long run how this benefits us as the best players will join the historically big teams.

So we should fight to keep FFP then?

 

[stony]

its gonna be like a gunfight at the ok coral with the big teams getting outside investment everbody after the same players so i dont see in the long run how this benefits us as the best players will join the historically big teams.

What teams are those then? Liverpool are in the shit. FSG hasn't invested a penny into them and won't do either. Arsenal have had rich owners for years but would rather take money out than put it in. Same for Spurs, if they really wanted to challenge the top 4, their owners had the resources to do it. They didn't though, because like Arsenal they are only interested in what they can take out.
Chelsea might spend, but Roman the Russian was one of the biggest advocates of FFP out there. He wanted to stop spending because he knows he can't afford to get into a cock waving contest with us or PSG.
As for the Glazers, as long as they can syphon money out of the gullible unwashed masses, they won't be selling up or opening the doors to new investors.

Another thing. Cut out this "historical" crap. It's bad enough hearing it from rags and scousers without listening to it on here. Look up the word in the dictionary and then research our history and compare it to theirs. Then come back and tell me who the "historically" big clubs are.

 

[birchwoodgingerste]

its gonna be like a gunfight at the ok coral with the big teams getting outside investment everbody after the same players so i dont see in the long run how this benefits us as the best players will join the historically big teams.

So we should fight to keep FFP then?

yeh why not get spurs and a few others to to sign!:))

 

[BlueAnorak]

The only fair solution is to have a Europe wide Salary Cap.
The big boys are not going to agree with it unless they can no longer compete...

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Get ready to laugh your bollocks off boys and girls! It's coming!!

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/liverpool-fc-owners-set-disappointed-9282200

They've spent over £100,000,000 last summer alone and they have the cheek to complain about fairness? Was it fair when they systematically stripped Southampton of their players? It's not City's fault that we bought Silva for £25,000,000 but Liverpool bought Lallana for £25,000,000. Fuck off John Henry you yankee doodle ding dong dick head.

Haha. Has a nice to ring to it ;-)

 

[BlueAnorak]

its gonna be like a gunfight at the ok coral with the big teams getting outside investment everbody after the same players so i dont see in the long run how this benefits us as the best players will join the historically big teams.

What teams are those then? Liverpool are in the shit. FSG hasn't invested a penny into them and won't do either. Arsenal have had rich owners for years but would rather take money out than put it in. Same for Spurs, if they really wanted to challenge the top 4, their owners had the resources to do it. They didn't though, because like Arsenal they are only interested in what they can take out.
Chelsea might spend, but Roman the Russian was one of the biggest advocates of FFP out there. He wanted to stop spending because he knows he can't afford to get into a cock waving contest with us or PSG.
As for the Glazers, as long as they can syphon money out of the gullible unwashed masses, they won't be selling up or opening the doors to new investors.

Another thing. Cut out this "historical" crap. It's bad enough hearing it from rags and scousers without listening to it on here. Look up the word in the dictionary and then research our history and compare it to theirs. Then come back and tell me who the "historically" big clubs are.

Spot on!
84,569 is and will always be history!

 

[carlosthejackal]

its gonna be like a gunfight at the ok coral with the big teams getting outside investment everbody after the same players so i dont see in the long run how this benefits us as the best players will join the historically big teams.

Dear me .

 

[birchwoodgingerste]

its gonna be like a gunfight at the ok coral with the big teams getting outside investment everbody after the same players so i dont see in the long run how this benefits us as the best players will join the historically big teams.

What teams are those then? Liverpool are in the shit. FSG hasn't invested a penny into them and won't do either. Arsenal have had rich owners for years but would rather take money out than put it in. Same for Spurs, if they really wanted to challenge the top 4, their owners had the resources to do it. They didn't though, because like Arsenal they are only interested in what they can take out.
Chelsea might spend, but Roman the Russian was one of the biggest advocates of FFP out there. He wanted to stop spending because he knows he can't afford to get into a cock waving contest with us or PSG.
As for the Glazers, as long as they can syphon money out of the gullible unwashed masses, they won't be selling up or opening the doors to new investors.

Another thing. Cut out this "historical" crap. It's bad enough hearing it from rags and scousers without listening to it on here. Look up the word in the dictionary and then research our history and compare it to theirs. Then come back and tell me who the "historically" big clubs are.

im not saying the likes of the rags or scousers they dont even come into the equation im on about the likes of madrid and barca .

 

[EL APACHE TEVEZ]

its gonna be like a gunfight at the ok coral with the big teams getting outside investment everbody after the same players so i dont see in the long run how this benefits us as the best players will join the historically big teams.

WHAT!!!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

its gonna be like a gunfight at the ok coral with the big teams getting outside investment everbody after the same players so i dont see in the long run how this benefits us as the best players will join the historically big teams.

What teams are those then? Liverpool are in the shit. FSG hasn't invested a penny into them and won't do either. Arsenal have had rich owners for years but would rather take money out than put it in. Same for Spurs, if they really wanted to challenge the top 4, their owners had the resources to do it. They didn't though, because like Arsenal they are only interested in what they can take out.
Chelsea might spend, but Roman the Russian was one of the biggest advocates of FFP out there. He wanted to stop spending because he knows he can't afford to get into a cock waving contest with us or PSG.
As for the Glazers, as long as they can syphon money out of the gullible unwashed masses, they won't be selling up or opening the doors to new investors.

Another thing. Cut out this "historical" crap. It's bad enough hearing it from rags and scousers without listening to it on here. Look up the word in the dictionary and then research our history and compare it to theirs. Then come back and tell me who the "historically" big clubs are.

Fucking well said, mate. There isn't a club in the land with a more colourful narrative than City possess. The story about how City got to where they find themselves today is utterly astonishing in footballing terms. How can anything that astounding not be historically worthy?

Being a City fan these last 39 years has been a privilege.

 

[inbetween]

its gonna be like a gunfight at the ok coral with the big teams getting outside investment everbody after the same players so i dont see in the long run how this benefits us as the best players will join the historically big teams.

What teams are those then? Liverpool are in the shit. FSG hasn't invested a penny into them and won't do either. Arsenal have had rich owners for years but would rather take money out than put it in. Same for Spurs, if they really wanted to challenge the top 4, their owners had the resources to do it. They didn't though, because like Arsenal they are only interested in what they can take out.
Chelsea might spend, but Roman the Russian was one of the biggest advocates of FFP out there. He wanted to stop spending because he knows he can't afford to get into a cock waving contest with us or PSG.
As for the Glazers, as long as they can syphon money out of the gullible unwashed masses, they won't be selling up or opening the doors to new investors.

Another thing. Cut out this "historical" crap. It's bad enough hearing it from rags and scousers without listening to it on here. Look up the word in the dictionary and then research our history and compare it to theirs. Then come back and tell me who the "historically" big clubs are.

The big irony is that FFP was brought in to make clubs run better businesses. Unfortunately for them the only clubs that have been run like businesses are the ones being punished. The rest who passed have pondered to the brink as we have seen with every Italian club bar Juventus and now it seems the French clubs are going the same way. We and several others on the other hand adapted and we have adapted ruthlessly. For those who slag off Soriano, his efforts for this club on the business side have been instrumental, it is quite something to consider that we are growing by 25% every year in turnover, on that trend we would surpass Real Madrid in a matter of years. Obviously that will slow but it is amazing when you consider our transfer outlay barely changes and we continually invest in things like the stadium and academy. We are now truly a model of what the football club of the future will be, both as a business and on the pitch.

As I said many moons ago, FFP will be easily defeated either in court or by the clubs because the punishment system and rules are not geared around punishing what it supposedly intended for - financial malpractice. It is actually punishing clubs who are forced to run like businesses but then are not able to compete because the money just is not there. As an example, 3rd party investment is also completely inhibited by FFP - In the business world, investment is not just only what makes companies grow but in many cases it turns them around. It means that a club like AC Milan who must now rely solely on new sponsorships or matchday income has no chance without increasing those 2 sides of the equation. Next to go is the Spanish clubs as it is very likely La Liga will implode because the big two are saddled with debt and will look to negotiate their TV contracts. The rest of La Liga though will wise up and as we have seen threatened, they could easily go on strike and rightly so.

In England we have lead the charge by adapting to a sponsor/broadcast led model which is the envy of the world thanks to aggressive negotiation with Sky and BT to ensure fair distribution throughout. It is win win for broadcasters and sponsors too because it also ensures a competitive, exciting league which no other can match. FFP was not designed to stop us nor PSG, it was designed to reign in and halt the rise of England as THE league. Is it any wonder we were not allowed to win the World Cup but instead it was sold out to the highest bidder. In a world of so called Financial Fair Play - how ironic!

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

its gonna be like a gunfight at the ok coral with the big teams getting outside investment everbody after the same players so i dont see in the long run how this benefits us as the best players will join the historically big teams.

What teams are those then? Liverpool are in the shit. FSG hasn't invested a penny into them and won't do either. Arsenal have had rich owners for years but would rather take money out than put it in. Same for Spurs, if they really wanted to challenge the top 4, their owners had the resources to do it. They didn't though, because like Arsenal they are only interested in what they can take out.
Chelsea might spend, but Roman the Russian was one of the biggest advocates of FFP out there. He wanted to stop spending because he knows he can't afford to get into a cock waving contest with us or PSG.
As for the Glazers, as long as they can syphon money out of the gullible unwashed masses, they won't be selling up or opening the doors to new investors.

Another thing. Cut out this "historical" crap. It's bad enough hearing it from rags and scousers without listening to it on here. Look up the word in the dictionary and then research our history and compare it to theirs. Then come back and tell me who the "historically" big clubs are.

Fucking well said, mate. There isn't a club in the land with a more colourful narrative than City possess. The story about how City got to where they find themselves today is utterly astonishing in footballing terms. How can anything that astounding not be historically worthy?

Being a City fan these last 3 years has been a privilege.

Edited for accuracy ;-)

 

[@BluePhil8]

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Sterling is on his jollies and we are favourites.

Time to splash the cash once more boys!

 

[r.soleofsalford]

these snidey bastards will have another con up there sleeves

 

[Pam]

these snidey bastards will have another con up there sleeves

No. They're scared of us. It is over.

Sterling is agitating to leave the Slippers tonight, btw.

Cash spunks.