City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

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I'm sure it will be against our human rights to watch City in the CL.
 
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dctid said:
lmjones1uk said:
Havnt Chelsea failed FFP as well then, 2012 = 1.4m profit & 2013 = 49m loss

At first that why i though they sold Mata but they have also spent at least that this wondow so yup your correct

I'm pretty facking sure the bin dippers have failed as well, posted debt of 86m (up 20m) and losses of 40m for 2012-13, havnt seen this years figures but pretty sure they won't have posted a profit.

The Mata sales goes towards next years figures I believe.
 
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Anyone would think we've gone out and bought Messi,Ronaldo,Neymar et al,when in actual fact we've installed brilliant management who have picked up quality team players who were slightly under the radar such as Negredo,fernandhino,jovetic.we haven't looked at the so called obvious managers as well when we replaced Mancini,we brought a man in who in the words of the media hasn't won anything of significance,money doesn't guarantee getting the best just look at Chelsea splashing 50 million on Torres,also the selling clubs have a lot to answer for hiking up there prices when they see a club like city interested in their player,remember when united sold a certain player for 80 odd million,like a previous poster as mentioned,how much have we spent this window,a big fat zero,where as Chelsea can't stop spending and united 37 million on one player.
 
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This atricle is absolutely bang on

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I have to say in my view this is a non-story - these clubs need to be careful as to invite UEFA in to look at books could get one or two clubs banned - Mnsr Platini would love to limit English club numbers still further I bet. Then again actually implementing FFP rules would mean he'd also have to look at the books at his sons club PSG.... hmmmmm.

Also first hint of this and I am sure the club have an army of the best lawyers available to fucking bankrupt UEFA, freeze their assets and paralyze all competitions by way of injunctions and the like - if somebody really wants us to ruin football with cash we can............. just don't want to ruin the beautiful game......
 
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It says arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool. Well arsenal and Chelsea will qualify so why would they? Ok if Liverpool miss out on 4th they might want to try to get us booted out. But let's face it there is one big and particularly ****ish club that looks like it is going to miss out for the first time in many years. IMO this is them but keeping their name out of it so they don't look like the bitter desperate cunts that they are.
Edit: and a few weeks ago I actually thought that if united miss out, it'll be interesting to see if they and or uefa try some shit on.
 
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Arsenal seem to be the biggest protagonists in this whole bent scheme - as much as I hate utd I would rather have them in the top 4 before arsenal (controversial I know) if arse lose their champs league cash cow, they will be fucked - and what a good riddance it would be. Despicable, classless club - the school bully who suddenly finds himself getting picked on so goes running to the teacher.

Ian Herbert deserves to have his jaw broken as well.
 
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If the rags or Arsenal questioned it I'd have told them to fuck off but Chelsea have a cheek, bigger wage bill, more expensive players, nearly 2 teams out on loan including a 20 million pound striker.
 
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They are pissed off that we bought 3 other clubs to help out FFP and looks like we will be buying a club in china probably South America!

I can see our turnover being half billion in a couple of years as well so it's desperation on there half to do something now but deep down they know its hopeless :)
 
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Skashion said:
The whole thing is a farce. It's always been a sham to protect the G14/G20 oligarchy. The idea that it targets us, ostensibly to protect against the likes of another Leeds debacle, when we have no financial debt, £400m in assets and £435m in equity we can call up, and an owner prepared to invest yet more equity when we are fast approaching the point of break-even already (and will hit it for the current season I predict), whilst other clubs remained mired either in very real debt or theoretical debt (Chelsea), reveals the true motive. In the long run though, I maintain we will benefit from FFP. As far as I'm concerned we made it into the castle just as the drawbridge was being raised and the portcullis lowered.

So, to all the knobheads from other clubs drooling over FFP:

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Heed my words, be careful what you wish for.
Very good read.
Post of the thread so far.congratulations!!!!!!
 
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Cobwebcat said:
It's just a new rule that says if we were punished and we argued for a lesser punishment then another affected club could argue for the original punishment to stick.

No clubs have ganged up on us. There's no point in getting angry at them. The media is shit stirring and there is no need to fall for it.

Too late I guess and I said I was going to bed too. :-)

You couldn't be more wrong.

Since we got taken over FFFP rules have been driven by the cartel of clubs in Europe the biggest drivers being united, Munich arsenal , et al FFFP came about by them going to uefa
 
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grim up north said:
Cobwebcat said:
It's just a new rule that says if we were punished and we argued for a lesser punishment then another affected club could argue for the original punishment to stick.

No clubs have ganged up on us. There's no point in getting angry at them. The media is shit stirring and there is no need to fall for it.

Too late I guess and I said I was going to bed too. :-)

You couldn't be more wrong.

Since we got taken over FFFP rules have been driven by the cartel of clubs in Europe the biggest drivers being united, Munich arsenal , et al FFFP came about by them going to uefa

I think you have misunderstood what he was saying have another read
 
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Journos on Sunday Supplement just summed it up nicely, ''thats a bit rich coming from Chelsea'', also ''who has got the best lawyers, i fancy City have''
 
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So lets get this right

If UEFA decide we dont meet FFP rules - WHICH THEY WON'T
They can then decide to issue a sanction - WHICH THEY WON'T
we can appeal - One of the grounds being we are probably breaking even this year
If they then decide to suspend the sanction or change the decision based on our appeal -

Arse, Dippers and Chavs and anyone else who fancies their chances then have the right to open their bank balance to challenge UEFA's appeals committee.

NOT A FUCKING CHANCE IN HELL
 
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Sweet - banned from CL. I wonder if any of the old sky 4 fancy their chances of winning anything domestically if our squad have less games/injuries to deal with next season? *snigger*
 
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Damocles said:
Forzacitizens said:
Keith, can you explain to
Me why it contravenes EU law?

Restriction of trade?

It doesn't matter anyway, there's absolutely no way in hell that UEFA would kick us out of the Champions League. They're petrified already of people mutinying and starting a rival competition which is why everybody will flap and flap and flap and eventually do nothing.

Think how quickly John Henry's tune will change if we announced a rival European competition to which Liverpool are invited and the prize money was £200m
That coin has two sides....imagine Liverpool, Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Real, Barca so on and so forth threatening to start thier own competition, how do think Uefa would react then?

The reason the Champions League is formatted the way it is now was due to the power of the elite clubs
 
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Mourinho is on great form this week isn't he. Can't wait to hit them for 5 tomorrow and hear what he has to say this week. There could be tears.
 
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The bit that always tickles me about FFP is that it was brought on to help protect clubs from going under by massively overspending what they don't have . By dismissing clubs with leveraged debt (eg united) from the fine details of FFP is scandalous. Portsmouth went under from debt FFS not from an owner who used his own money to develop a new football brand!
 
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I don't know what UEFA will do, but they have a long record of utterly brainless refusals to see the blindingly obvious combined with an arrogance that is breathtaking. Look at the Bosman case, it was obvious to anyone that they would lose, yet rather than come to a compromise with a man who just wanted to play football (something like the British tribuneral system) they insisted on pushing a system that was a clear breach of European law all the way to court and a humiliating and arguably disastrous defeat. I wouldn't put it past Platini and co to try something nor would I be surprised to see it end up in court.
 
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danebanksheik said:
So lets get this right

If UEFA decide we dont meet FFP rules - WHICH THEY WON'T
They can then decide to issue a sanction - WHICH THEY WON'T
we can appeal - One of the grounds being we are probably breaking even this year
If they then decide to suspend the sanction or change the decision based on our appeal -

Arse, Dippers and Chavs and anyone else who fancies their chances then have the right to open their bank balance to challenge UEFA's appeals committee.

NOT A FUCKING CHANCE IN HELL

Arse wont mind opening their books, Chelski and Dippers maybe different BUT each club will not be able to see the analysiis by UEFA of FFP complaince

If and its a bif IF that UEFA decide we dont meet the FFP then logically and under the rules we are likely to be banned (Undermnes the whole FFP if you are going going to ban clubs for breaching it) and then the appeal is to CAS not UEFA only CAS can over turn the decision and the CAS outcome is legally binding with only very very little grounds for further appeal

Cant see it hapening though
 

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