City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

Damocles said:
After taking the day to wait for people qualified to analyse this to analyse this, the idea that City won some major win and Stefan was downplaying it is clearly wrong.
Having read The Lawyer's take on it, I'm surprised he thinks it was even a "score draw" frankly.
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As personal observation your input appears intent on taking a soulless, superior and sneering approach to this topic.

Do you have a dog in the race by any chance ?
 
M23 Citizen said:
That it was found that any part of the APT rules or practices were unlawful is all that matters.

That it was found that interest free shareholders loans are unlawful could end up being huge for the league and very impactful for a few clubs.

Whether we lost many of the other things we took them to court on is neither here nor there really. The main thing is that we’ve made the PL look like a dodgy, secretive, underhand and untrustworthy organisation of shysters who have brought in unlawful rules and allowed unlawful practices to go on that benefits or lets off some clubs and not others.

It’s not about a 11:9 win either way, or even 17:3 against.

People are slowly but surely discovering that the PL are not fit to run the top league in this country. That’s where we’ve won.
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And the phrase "red cartel" is now in everyone's head. Big win.

Will enough clubs support any new rules if the first question is, "Would we spend millions defending in court these rules designed to help the red cartel?"?
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Can’t see that mate. Where about?

Having looked he is due a small correction because he does have an educational qualification in the jurisdiction, namely an MA in 2019, although in International Relations which is interesting because he was practising in law at the time and therefore it’s surprising his MA wasn’t in law (unless I’m missing something with International Relations).
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I'm not getting involved in his qualifications, just scanned the LinkedIn profile you shared, I'll leave it for people that know about that stuff to judge. All I was interested in was who he knows. All the people he worked with at Solesbury went straight into employment elsewhere, including the founding partner who heads up UK Athletics.
 
Damocles said:
But he didn't DO any real analysis of the law. He stated the facts of the judgement and then said "here's what a bunch of experienced people think".

And besides, 3 years of sports law makes him one billion percent more qualified and experienced to comment on the judgement than every single working football journalist in this country combined.
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Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying. It appeared that you were saying that he was qualified to comment rather than the unnamed sources in the article. If so, there are various manifest problems with this approach, given, in particular, the anonymity of the sources and the author’s ability to cherry pick tendentiously.

I think you are overstating his experience in the second paragraph. On the face if it, he would have been little more than an errand boy within a firm that failed and had its licence to practise revoked. I highly doubt he will have been ultimately responsible for any heavyweight work, or possible even exposed to any. So one billion percent might be a little OTT!

And it’s ‘judgment’ :-)
 
Dribble said:
I'd imagine the MP involved won't have an executive role withing IREF, but more of an oversight role.
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When the Pie is this big you can bet MP will be having a slice
The Good thing is City have nice-tasting pies and would be willing to share
 
BobbyBoy said:
I'm not getting involved in his qualifications, just scanned the LinkedIn profile you shared, I'll leave it for people that know about that stuff to judge. All I was interested in was who he knows. All the people he worked with at Solesbury went straight into employment elsewhere, including the founding partner who heads up UK Athletics.
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But tif, he didn’t. I think that’s material and worthy of note.

I think the notion that he eschewed a career at a Magic Circle firm in order to pursue a career in the noble profession of journalism, despite the huge gulf in earnings, is fanciful at best.

I think it’s safe to assume that it’s likely that if he was any good then he’d still be practising in sports law, especially as he plainly is engaged by the subject matter.

And fair play to him btw. He’s apparently found something he’s better suited to.
 
M23 Citizen said:
That it was found that any part of the APT rules or practices were unlawful is all that matters.

That it was found that interest free shareholders loans are unlawful could end up being huge for the league and very impactful for a few clubs.

Whether we lost many of the other things we took them to court on is neither here nor there really. The main thing is that we’ve made the PL look like a dodgy, secretive, underhand and untrustworthy organisation of shysters who have brought in unlawful rules and allowed unlawful practices to go on that benefits or lets off some clubs and not others.

It’s not about a 11:9 win either way, or even 17:3 against.

People are slowly but surely discovering that the PL are not fit to run the top league in this country. That’s where we’ve won.
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You know the tide is turning when Joe 90 on talksport mentions the word cartel.
 
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