City pay structure to use Barca Model

[grim up north]

Barcelona this, Barcelona that.

What next? Changing our name to FC Manchester City? Changing our colours to blue and dark red? Only Catalan will be allowed to be spoken?

Really

Why not emulate a successful model.

 

[WNRH]

Barcelona this, Barcelona that.

What next? Changing our name to FC Manchester City? Changing our colours to blue and dark red? Only Catalan will be allowed to be spoken?

Really

Why not emulate a successful model.

Because it's a model that won't be successful for ever. They are going through a successful cycle. Lets see how great their ways of operating are when their golden generation of Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Pique, Puyol etc all retire.

Sick of all this Barcelona talk, we aren't Barcelona, just because 4-3-3 works for them, tika taka football works for them doesn't mean it will work for us.

 

[CC1]

It's a nice idea in theory but in practice we simply don't have the pulling power of Barcelona and I suspect most potential transfer targets would opt for the higher basic wage that would inevitably be offered by competing clubs.

This is the problem - it's a great idea but just because that's what we want to do, doesn't mean we can force great player to accept it. There are not many clubs could implement such a scheme - even yoonited had to pay RVP top dollar to go there - and Rooney to keep him there.

 

[grim up north]

Barcelona this, Barcelona that.

What next? Changing our name to FC Manchester City? Changing our colours to blue and dark red? Only Catalan will be allowed to be spoken?

Really

Why not emulate a successful model.

Because it's a model that won't be successful for ever. They are going through a successful cycle. Lets see how great their ways of operating are when their golden generation of Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Pique, Puyol etc all retire.

Sick of all this Barcelona talk, we aren't Barcelona, just because 4-3-3 works for them, tika taka football works for them doesn't mean it will work for us.

Was talkin about business model, academy etc.

 

[Corky]

When do we vote for President then?

 

[simonmdm]

Going off the example they gave of us offering a player on £200,000 now a contract of £140,000 our basic wage outlay would go down a lot. With our last accounts showing about £200m for the year, taking the 30% wage reduction for everybody would reduce our wage bill to about £140M a year. Then if you take out players sold as well, we'd be quite close to complying with ffp. So I think this is definitely the way forward but it will take time to implement.

 

[johnbmcr]

Barcelona this, Barcelona that.

What next? Changing our name to FC Manchester City? Changing our colours to blue and dark red? Only Catalan will be allowed to be spoken?

not a bad idea the food and wine would improve over night can we sort out the Barcelona weather as well ?

 

[WNRH]

Really

Why not emulate a successful model.

Because it's a model that won't be successful for ever. They are going through a successful cycle. Lets see how great their ways of operating are when their golden generation of Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Pique, Puyol etc all retire.

Sick of all this Barcelona talk, we aren't Barcelona, just because 4-3-3 works for them, tika taka football works for them doesn't mean it will work for us.

Was talkin about business model, academy etc.

As someone has said though, that business model works for them as they are Barcelona, they play in a beautiful city with fantastic weather in a comfortable league. We love Manchester but for an outsider it's shit compared to Barcelona.

As for their academy, who has come through it lately? It's a good academy don't get me wrong but like United and Ajax in the 90's it is going through a once in a generation successful cycle. When Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Pique, Puyol all retire it is highly unlikely they will replace them with graduates of their academy, they will spend big money like they have in the past.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Going off the example they gave of us offering a player on £200,000 now a contract of £140,000 our basic wage outlay would go down a lot. With our last accounts showing about £200m for the year, taking the 30% wage reduction for everybody would reduce our wage bill to about £140M a year. Then if you take out players sold as well, we'd be quite close to complying with ffp. So I think this is definitely the way forward but it will take time to implement.

OK in theory, however, the competition for top end players is increasing with not just PSG and Madrid but even Galatasary prepared to pay top dollar wages. These teams also play in top capital cities with decent weather so we won't get away with paying players lower wages.

Also, I recall that the great AC Milan side just paid the players basic salaries because the players and the team were expected to be best every week (and they were on top wages anyway).

 

[matrix0161]

Maybe these bonuses could be payed for by sponsors like Etihad, this would be a big help for the club to qualify for financial fair play, there has been talk of the rags trying to get nike help do a deal for Ronaldo, probably not true but the idea of outside help looks a good one.