City vs Bayern Munich Post match Thread

[Ducado]

I think the first goal shocked them but you could tell by the looks on their faces that they were not comfortable with the system, totally the managers fault that performance, losing fair enough but a pub team performance like that must is unacceptable

 

[mancity1]

we played the best team in the world and the manager adopted tactics so naïve it was frightening, but even scarier, having witnessed us getting torn a new one, the same team and tactics trotted out for the second half. Amazingly the 1st change was a like for like, but eventually getting silva and some ball retention arrived when the game was long gone.

the players were hung out to dry by out tactics, nothing more nothing less.

That's only part of it but a significant part as well.

You can still put in a shift no matter the formation.

I am more interested in the reaction we will get on Saturday.

This cliche that we will learn from it doesn't mean much in the wash up.

 

[bluefn]

After the derby, and listening to a whole feckin host of rags fail to give us the credit we deserved for battering them, I'm not going to come on here and be a hypocrite. Bayern Munich were immense. There isn't a team in the world that can live with them when they play that way.

However, we are continually being outplayed, and have been since we entered this competition 3 years ago, by certain teams/types of teams. We have no answer. A squad that is worth around £300 million is made to look like we do. We are a million miles away from the level we need to be at in this competition. That is something inherent at the club that needs to be looked at. For the record, I believe we will get out of this group this time around. If we have a semi decent run, maybe the quarters at a push, I will be happy.

It doesn't cover up the gaping cracks, though. I don't understand why the mentality of this squad is where it is. One point has been proven this year, Mancini was perhaps not the instigator we thought, this team are showing the same traits under Manuel. A bad attitude. Don't tell me it's the way he set up, Manuel's record in the champions league with low budget teams is there to be seen, in Madrid he did fine. You are only as good as the squad you inherit, ask pep, what a side to go and manage after Barcelona, he's not a silly boy is he? This team is delivering the same bad habits it did last year, and it will take time to change the mentality of a group of players, but make no mistake, this is where the brass is. Im not sure how much time will be afforded to Manuel, or to certain players in this squad, before the hammer drops. We have to deliver in this competition this season. As we are, we are not good enough to make a print. A squad of that value and that experience should be delivering by now. There is something fundementally wrong with this group of players and I wish all luck in the world to Manuel in trying to sort it out. I just hope he's given the time.

 

[without a dream]

There were 2 things that annoyed me yesterday. Firstly Pellegrini for starting 442/4222 whatever you want to call it (particularly with our £27m lump of inconsistency as one of our strikers) and then not changing the system until we were 3 nil down when it was very obvious what the issue was. Secondly that the player's heads dropped for what felt like a significant time and none of our leaders seemed to do anything about it.

Bayern were immense though, by far the best team I've ever seen us play.

 

[malg]

Bayern were immense though, by far the best team I've ever seen us play.

Yep. Awesome.

 

[Kevindxb]

Right. You can all moan about individual players, but them tactics were shocking. It left everyone chasing shadows.
We all knew that control of midfield was the key to this game. So we hand it to them 6/7 to 2. Our outlet wide Navas and
the two up front are rendered useless because we can't get the football.

For Pellegrini to allow this to continue for 60/70 minutes and run the players into the ground is rather disconcerting.
For those saying it got better after 70 mins, yeah, because 2 of the subs were the midfielders that we'd been missing
for the previous 70 mins.

Anyway, I cant see Everton being as good as Bayern, because they are a bloody good side, we just made it a bit
easier for them.

Well said. Many blame the players. Players are limited if the tactics are wrong.

 

[Kevindxb]

he put the wrong team out to start and it was all, all wrong, everyone saw it, gary fucking neville started saying it after 10 minutes we needed another in midfield, and it was so obvious, and we never did until the game was long, long over. that's on the manager

I was happy with the lineup, but it didnt take long to work out that it wasnt working.

15 minutes I said we needed a sub.

Looked at my watch, it was 4:52 when I decided it was wrong. I always jump the gun though. Standard procedure throughout the world is to give it 45 mins min. regardless (REGARDLESS) so you, the manager, can save face - it's the real "face time" and it has and always will be utter posturing bullshit.

Better to admit from the off you've fucked up and fix it sharpish. On the other hand, one can wait for the opposition to fall in line and walk slowly in tight ranks across no-mans line at night smoking endless cigarettes and yelling "here Tommy, over here!".

*steps away form the Ouzo*

It took me two seconds before the start whistle to know we will be overrun, when I saw the formation and names on the tele. It baffles me, all the commentators were saying Pelle should make a change, all my mates thought the same, he's done nothing.

 

[sincity]

Given that the U-19 won 6-0, maybe we should make them play the rest of the Champions League games for us? They would probably have much more passion than the team I saw play yesterday..But seriously, Marcos Lopes needs to start playing in the first team.

From the game yesterday, I felt Silva should have played the whole 90 minutes, he made such a difference when he came on.
And Negredo over Dzeko in games like these, play Dzeko in the less important games right now. I would even play Lopes over Dzeko to see if that will make a difference in our play. Really don't know what's wrong with Dzeko..
I wouldn't blame Joe Hart for the goals, just that we always expect more from a world-class GK. The defence could not handle the passing game by Bayern, and many times were caught napping. Hart should not have been placed in that situation in the first place..

And then there is the luck factor. If Bayern had got that red card in the 60th minute or something, we could have put immense pressure on them and made something of the game. But its telling that we can't play them 11 Vs 11.

It will be interesting to see what Pellegrini is going to do do now. The camera shot of our management during the game was plain to see that they were not at all happy with what was going on. But I keep hoping that Pellegrini will do something to revitalize the team back to their winning ways. We need to bounce back fighting. F***king hell, of all the teams to play after such a defeat, its Everton next..

 

[Kevindxb]

Starting with 2 up front at home - ok we're the home side and we should attack and give their defence something to think about .
Then it becomes very evident very quickly that we simply can't get the ball to them because , well , we simply can't get the ball.
We simply can't get the ball because our midfield is outnumbered and overrun by a very well drilled very efficient very fit side which hunted in packs with and without the ball.
This is the point where the manager takes a brave decision - things need to be changed because I have got the wrong setup .
However , he sits on his hands .
Daxman was absolutely correct a few pages back . It's not about "desire" or " hunger" or big fat pay packets - it's ( or was tonight ) simply about tactics and the way you set up your team and the way you react to what is happening before your very eyes.
That is the most disappointing thing about tonight . I really didn't expect to beat Bayern - as we all saw they are an extremely good side , technically , tactically and physically. I think we would still have lost had we made the obvious changes at half - time but it would have been fairer and better for the players on the pitch to have given them a better chance to compete , and would also - and more importantly , have demonstrated the manager's ability to read the situation and make the right choices and decisions with the implied concession that he got it wrong in the first place .
Sadly , he didn't do anything until too late.

Couldn't agree more. So many blame players for not being hungry, its not that. Its not Yaya and Fernandinio fault for being out numbered. Pelle wanted to play wide and left us hollow in the middle.

 

[kippaxking79]

After that I don't fancy our chances of getting out the group that easily. I hope we don't go to Munich on the final match day needing points. From now on Negrado over dzeko every day for me. And it's time Hart fought for his place. He made the mountain even taller with the first goal. If that doesn't go in I honestly think it would have been a tighter game. And WTF was Clichy doing for their second? They still probably would have won but again, 3 glaring errors. When was the last time we shipped 3 goals in the space of half a dozen matches????