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Club vs country *Poll Added*
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BlueHammer85
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It’s just cool to hate your own national team nowadays - probably because club tribal mentality and some fans can’t handle a rivals player playing for England , also it’s an easy option to hate on England , unlikely to win a major tournament because, well, it’s bloody hard … so play safe and keep repeating ‘this manager (whoever it is) won’t win anything for England, we’re rubbish, the FA are corrupt’ bla bla
bluetonium
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Lost the love for England after being force fed the poster boy love ins with Terry, Cole, Rio, Gerrard and Rooney. Good footballers no doubt but I would have been embarrassed to see them lifting a cup in my countries name. Ok, well mainly Terry and Rooney on that one
I think that the emergence of the so called top 4 and the players associated with that, the media evolved into something akin to fanboyism for these favoured players, maybe even the fa fell for it too. Play a blinder for a lower placed team and get ignored, sub appearance for United and it's off to the world cup with you. Cheating on your teammates with their wives and girlfriends? No fear, the England captaincy is a get out of jail free card apparently.
Had hopes that Southgate would look past all that, and to be fair maybe he has in some ways. But the national team still lacks any kind of identity, and the rift continuing to be pushed by the media in alienating city fans from the mainstream makes it hard for me to feel I can get behind them being wishing our lads play well and stay injury free. Plus there is the whole siege mentality thing - the media have created this whole bad and good narrative around city, and at least I know which side of it I am on and who is the enemy. With England it now feels like the media are wolves in sheep's clothing, just waiting for a Grealish, Foden or Sterling slip up.
Whereas for City I'm bonkers. I check City news several times a day, watch old matches daily and am impatient for our next game to come around.
I think that the emergence of the so called top 4 and the players associated with that, the media evolved into something akin to fanboyism for these favoured players, maybe even the fa fell for it too. Play a blinder for a lower placed team and get ignored, sub appearance for United and it's off to the world cup with you. Cheating on your teammates with their wives and girlfriends? No fear, the England captaincy is a get out of jail free card apparently.
Had hopes that Southgate would look past all that, and to be fair maybe he has in some ways. But the national team still lacks any kind of identity, and the rift continuing to be pushed by the media in alienating city fans from the mainstream makes it hard for me to feel I can get behind them being wishing our lads play well and stay injury free. Plus there is the whole siege mentality thing - the media have created this whole bad and good narrative around city, and at least I know which side of it I am on and who is the enemy. With England it now feels like the media are wolves in sheep's clothing, just waiting for a Grealish, Foden or Sterling slip up.
Whereas for City I'm bonkers. I check City news several times a day, watch old matches daily and am impatient for our next game to come around.
KnaresboroughBlue
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I don't think people hate their national team. They just naturally prefer their league team.It’s just cool to hate your own national team nowadays - probably because club tribal mentality and some fans can’t handle a rivals player playing for England , also it’s an easy option to hate on England , unlikely to win a major tournament because, well, it’s bloody hard … so play safe and keep repeating ‘this manager (whoever it is) won’t win anything for England, we’re rubbish, the FA are corrupt’ bla bla
BlueHammer85
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I don't think people hate their national team. They just naturally prefer their league team.
You only have to read back through the thread to see how much hate there is against England
cleavers
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What did you vote as a matter of interest ?You only have to read back through the thread to see how much hate there is against England
KnaresboroughBlue
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Seemed more like indifference/apathy in most cases. I generally follow the Czech Republic, Italy, England and Portugal but my club side will always take precedence.You only have to read back through the thread to see how much hate there is against England
BlueHammer85
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What did you vote as a matter of interest ?
I didnt vote , pointless when I saw the title as I know vast majority will go for club and see it as a opportunity to post cliché hate for their national side - will always be this way
I got a season ticket and follow hammers but equally when England are playing in major tournaments (not fussed friendlies/nations league) then I love to support them also
cleavers
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So probably the same as the majority here then ? I'm not sure I'd use the term "love", but hey ho, always my biggest interest is in our players, and not getting injured too.I got a season ticket and follow hammers but equally when England are playing in major tournaments (not fussed friendlies/nations league) then I love to support them also