Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Chris Witty this morning reiterating we are not safe yet and opening yet again too early will be another victory for fed up over facts. I truly despair of people who cannot learn from previous mistakes. They keep me away from my family and friends by being thick fucking morons. You are right about this being a world situation. If we don't vaccinate the poorer countries new variants will keep appearing. So even the don't send money to poor countries racist cunts, should see it as an insurance policy to keep them safe. Although they are so thick they probably won't realise that.
An upswing is cases is virtually inevitable at whatever point we open up.
The whole point of the lockdown was to protect those most vulnerable to this disease until vaccines had been sufficiently administered. We have now reached that point, with all over 70s and clinically vulnerable having been vaccinated in mid-Feb.
 
An upswing is cases is virtually inevitable at whatever point we open up.
The whole point of the lockdown was to protect those most vulnerable to this disease until vaccines had been sufficiently administered. We have now reached that point, with all over 70s and clinically vulnerable having been vaccinated in mid-Feb.

looking at the dates looks like they want group 1-4 to have had both jabs by the time things seriously open up
 
An upswing is cases is virtually inevitable at whatever point we open up.
The whole point of the lockdown was to protect those most vulnerable to this disease until vaccines had been sufficiently administered. We have now reached that point, with all over 70s and clinically vulnerable having been vaccinated in mid-Feb.
The whole point of the lockdown was to protect the NHS from being overwhelmed.
 
Does anyone know the timescale for all over 50s to have recieved both jabs..surely then we could be back to normal (new)?
 
England hospital deaths 164 on what is one of the three 'high midweek days when weekend deaths get added.

35 from NW though. Always has more weekend add ons.

Last week it was 279 - with 57 from the NW - so another big week to week fall.

Indeed 279 on this day last week was the highest of the past week.

So if 164 proves that this week it will be strong progress.
 
Does anyone know the timescale for all over 50s to have recieved both jabs..surely then we could be back to normal (new)?
Dependent on the much vaunted daily ramp up it's possible all over 50's could be done by the end of June which would mean all over 50's having their first jab by April 7 so means second jab 12 weeks away would be the last day of June.
 
An upswing is cases is virtually inevitable at whatever point we open up.
The whole point of the lockdown was to protect those most vulnerable to this disease until vaccines had been sufficiently administered. We have now reached that point, with all over 70s and clinically vulnerable having been vaccinated in mid-Feb.
Have we? Let's hope so. I admire your optimism, although to be honest, if the CMO says it's too soon, I will go with him. The simple reason I don't share your optimism is the propensity of new variants developing in those not yet vaccinated, which theoretically could undo current vaccine protection capabilities. A rise in infection rates is and will be a direct consequence of this latest run into normality. The weak and old may not be ok if an even more virulent strain emerges. Stopping the incubation and mutation of these variants will only happen when all people are immunised. That's just science. So we open up too soon and we present the virus with countless Petri dishes to change and adapt. That's why Witty spike out. He knows political expediency will prevail and wants it on record that he told them. Who to believe? A scientist whose whole life is dedicated to this, or the Tory Party and their plant Starmer? Difficult one. I hope you are right, because I too am fed up, but I counter that feeling with knowing the virus doesn't give a single fuck how I feel.
 
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