Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Churchlawtonblue]

"But other EU members, including Poland and Belgium, are continuing its use."
... and here come the Belgians.

Ahh that must be a political decision because the Germans are basing their decision on the science with the rest following like sheep. ;-)

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Translation of German institute overseeing vaccinating here



There is a rationale, though personally I think suspending was wrong.

Everyday over 200 people are dying of covid in Germany alone? 3 people have developed rare clots and very sadly died but the German regulators have decided they have a duty of care so they stop the vaccination programme rather than chose to just continue and just notify people of the incidents of blood clots along with other side affects. That is neither rational nor logical and certainly cant be termed a duty of care to the citizens of Germany. Negligence and short sightedness seem more apt terms.

If they have based their decision on statistics then they are very unlikely to change their mind unless the data set changes or they have incorrect data. So that is the AZ vaccine effectively rendered useless in much of Europe when they already have a shortage of vaccines. A bizarre decision.

 

[Manc in London]

Mate in Notts says they're doing the 'naughty' 40's group now.

My sister lives in North Yorkshire. Only 31 but she had the vaccine last weekend. No underlying health conditions. Some of her school friends have had it too.

Edited: old school friends :)

 

[west didsblue]

My sister lives in North Yorkshire. Only 31 but she had the vaccine last weekend. No underlying health conditions. Some of her school friends have had it too.

Still at school at 31?
How many times can you resit GCSEs?

 

[Marvin]

Image from COG consortium showing one aspect of variation in the virus. Position 501 is the amino acid residue number. The most common mutation is Y which is the code for Tyrosine. This is a hydrophobic amino acid because it has a benzene ring in its side chain. The original was a polar amino acid called asparagine. The switch from a polar to hydrophobic amino acid is likely to explain why this mutation affects the structure of the spike protein and hence why it evades 1/2 antibody neutralisation reactions. This is a guess.

 

[Rammy Blue]

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Image from COG consortium showing one aspect of variation in the virus. Position 501 is the amino acid residue number. The most common mutation is Y which is the code for Tyrosine. This is a hydrophobic amino acid because it has a benzene ring in its side chain. The original was a polar amino acid called asparagine. The switch from a polar to hydrophobic amino acid is likely to explain why this mutation affects the structure of the spike protein and hence why it evades 1/2 antibody neutralisation reactions. This is a guess.

You love a good variant.

 

[somapop]

Mentioned a couple of weeks back I managed to turn an old friend round to the 'light' as he was on the precipice of entering the Covid denier void.
He's been through an awful lot over the past few years that's put much of my own battles to shame. He's on a bunch of meds for psychosis and for heart issues and partial paralysis but he's always been super sharp and academic as well as very creative.

Spoke to him on WhatsApp last night and turns out his girlfriend is quite into the conspiracy theories/anti govt etc so I feel for him in that regard.

He did ask me a question and although I advised he needs to speak to his doctor I said I'd try and dig stuff out if possible (links/articles).

This is part of what he asked (if it means anything to anyone on here?):

My titanium valve is seen as an alien entity and is constantly attacked risking blood clotting around it, hence warfarin and INR checks weekly. Please can you point me in the direction of knowledge about it mate?

He apparently has to wait for his INR levels to be between 2 and 3 to be vaccinated (has recently been 4.2).

I constantly tell him he needs to speak to his doctor but I get the impression there's little help there or he's still slightly mistrustful (but given his conditions perhaps a bit understandable to be so hesitant).

 

[Manc in London]

Still at school at 31?
How many times can you resit GCSEs?

Ffs haha

I could have lied and said they were teachers

 

[cleavers]

We cannot be far off reaching the positive test and death numbers of July and August. Really encouraging, especially when you consider schools are back.

I'm not sure schools being back 7 days is enough to work on just yet, though the numbers do seem encouraging.

 

[Manc in London]

I'm not sure schools being back 7 days is enough to work on just yet, though the numbers do seem encouraging.

Yes, fair point. I did think that after posting but got excited :) . No uptick in hospitalisations yet, the opposite in fact, but maybe another two or three weeks may give us a better indication.