Coronavirus (2021) thread

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are we just going to be surveilled wherever we go now? Can't even go to the pub without movements being tracked.

Whatever happened to freedom and democracy. It's either safe to open up or it isn't. Anything else is a con.

They've just admitted in the last few days that track and trace is largely a failure so I doubt it'll do much good anyway.

And I wouldn't worry too much because it's hardly a bulletproof system, writing 'your' details on a scrap of paper.
 
the only way to stop idiots like above(yorkus porkus) is for the social media sites to be made to verify, just like banks and bookies.
Bookies were never that keen to do it, unless you had a big win. I know it has changed a bit recently.

17th Jan 2015 6/6 away faves won in the PL - they all decided they wanted to know their customer that evening and took 2 weeks to be paid out as they must have lost millions.
 
They've just admitted in the last few days that track and trace is largely a failure so I doubt it'll do much good anyway.

And I wouldn't worry too much because it's hardly a bulletproof system, writing 'your' details on a scrap of paper.

Well yes, fake details is one thing, till an undercover cop checks your ID against the manifest let's say. Write your real details down and watch an unscrupulous individual text it to his mates to do a hit on your address whilst he can see you sat in the pub.

It's the principle.
 
Had a company talk/presentation at work (zoom at desk) today and one of my colleagues gave a talk on her work on the vaccine rollout programme via the digital sector. She praised highly the work of Dr Emily Lawson (who shuns the media spotlight) and said she was an incredible woman in an incredible team.

If you were witness to all this (and these intelligent, genuine people) and still believed there was some nefarious nature to a mass vaccination program I'd have no other option but to suggest you 'weren't right'', sadly.
Conspiracy theories always make me think of the Mitchell & Webb sketches on conspiracies. At the end it all boils down to “why?” - why would all the worlds governments conspire to fuck their counties/economies due to some “fake” virus so that they can... collect dna of their citizens?? (They could do this for the majority of people without manufacturing a pandemic) Drug their citizens?? Again, why?
Also how are China, the UK, USA, Russia, etc all suddenly on the same team in this conspiracy. And how are so many people involved without info leaks.

Practicaly, conspiracies don’t work
 
I think it's quite low numbers for Moderna expected isn't it? 50k a week max?

I think what i'd like to see now is a proper trial of AZ on the SA varient, not the back of a fag packet one that came out the other month.

Some dates on J&J and Novovax

Some more info about the booster jabs for Autumn.
 
I think it's quite low numbers for Moderna expected isn't it? 50k a week max?

I think what i'd like to see now is a proper trial of AZ on the SA varient, not the back of a fag packet one that came out the other month.

Some dates on J&J and Novovax

Some more info about the booster jabs for Autumn.
Moderna have started their trial on their variant vaccine.

At the moment Covid is surging across the world but at last vaccine supply is beginning to become more visible. What were national governments doing for the 12 months that it took to develop the vaccines?

It seems to me that the same variants keep arising independently across the world which is quite encouraging because it means that the number of viable forms of the virus is limited and its predicable but its mutation of the existing variants that could create a problem. I particularly do not like the look of that surge in India given that a couple of months ago there was evidence that they were close to herd immunity in some cities.
 
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