Coronavirus (2021) thread

[shemnel]

Beach crowds and park numbers past pretty much confirm there's an extraordinarily low risk to the public outdoors.
My only concern would be the hygiene protocols adopted by bar and restaurant staff when handling empty glasses and cutlery. Other than that all should be good.

There's a few new pressures I agree, it's not quite as simple as "outdoors = way less risk" as some of the new activities create new choke points, so to speak, such as glass handling, toilets and infection control, drunken less inhibited behaviours, touching things in shops etc etc. I still think this is not going to cause a big rise in infection. There might a plateau, a blip, there might be nothing at all, but I don't think it'll trigger a full on wave. Give it ten days or so to get an idea then it's all eyes on May 17th, should it stick to that.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

The fact remains that it is more complicated than outdoors versus indoors. That’s the issue.

No its not, You asked why people couldnt meet up inside yet could outside and I explained why. Its you that are complicating the issue i think. Its been like this for a year, its staggering that you still dont understand the science behind this decision.

 

[ctwrd]

No its not, You asked why people couldnt meet up inside yet could outside and I explained why. Its you that are complicating the issue i think. Its been like this for a year, its staggering that you still dont understand the science behind this decision.

I didn’t ask anyone anything.
It’s been a year which is long enough for nuanced discussion and advice on this.
I do understand the science but thanks for being so patronising.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I didn’t ask anyone anything.
It’s been a year which is long enough for nuanced discussion and advice on this.
I do understand the science but thanks for being so patronising.

If that is allowed I don’t see why we are still unable to see family indoors.

Looks to me as if you did ask a question?

 

[ctwrd]

Looks to me as if you did ask a question?

It’s an opinion not a question.

a bit like you just used a ? But did not actually ask a question

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

It’s an opinion not a question.

a bit like you just used a ? But did not actually ask a question

The word 'Why' made me think it was a question.

Anyway I guess we are both bored of this so lets move on.

Here's a question for you and anybody else, if we look at the shockingly high infection rates now in India do you think its correct to assume that China had similar levels before their state gov covered them up. Given that they are both incredibly crowded societies with low levels of health care expenditure per person.

 

[Healdplace]

GM Weekly Pop Data after today:~

Borough / Pop Today / 7 days ago / up or down wk to wk/ Testing is % of local population who have tested positive for Covid over past year.

As ever with Pop going up is bad, going down good - the higher the number the better or worse depending on direction moving. The Pop is total cases in past week versus 100,000 POPulation to even out the comparison versus size and expected cases based on numbers living there.


Oldham 53 / 61 Down 8 Testing positive 9.7%

Rochdale 41 / 70 / Down 29 Testing positive 9.5%

Manchester 38 / 66 / Down 28 Testing positive 9.5%

Bolton 33 / 63 / Down 30 Testing positive 9.0%

Wigan 31 / 53 / Down 22 Testing positive 8.8%

Salford 27 / 49 / Down 22 Testing positive 8.9%

Stockport 23 / 50 / Down 27 Testing positive 7.1%

Tameside 19 / 68 / Down 49 Testing positive 8.1%

Trafford 18 / 43 / Down 25 Testing positive 6.9%

Bury 18 / 49 / Down 31 Testing positive 9.0%



Bury and Trafford neck and neck and Tameside right there too. Oldham having problems at the moment.



Weekly cases:-

Bury 33, Tameside 44, Trafford 44, Stockport 67, Salford 68, Rochdale 91, Bolton 98, Wigan 102, Oldham 125, Manchester 211

 

[worsleyweb]

2472 cases and 23 all settings deaths

The deaths are becoming relatively negligible harsh as that sounds. 23 is not a lot as a percentage of the people who will have died today is what I am trying to say!

 

[ctwrd]

The word 'Why' made me think it was a question.

Anyway I guess we are both bored of this so lets move on.

Here's a question for you and anybody else, if we look at the shockingly high infection rates now in India do you think its correct to assume that China had similar levels before their state gov covered them up. Given that they are both incredibly crowded societies with low levels of health care expenditure per person.

Yes.
And who is making money out of selling testing kits and PPE worldwide?
One of the weirdest things about this is how the coverage of covid in China appeared to just disappear after a few months last year and we are led to believe that they managed to get rid of it.
I suspect that the truth is that there has been a permanent lockdown and control that hasn’t been reported.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Fuck off, he said no such thing.

So why did he say that lockdowns are the reason death rates and hospitalisations are only falling due to lockdown and not vaccines?
Then he tells us that cases, hospitalisations and deaths are bound to go up and you think he’s not laying the foundations for another lockdown?
Fair enough, if that’s what you think, let’s just hope you’re right.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...-not-vaccinations-says-boris-johnson-12274266