Coronavirus (2021) thread

Blue Maverick

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Cancer isn't contagious, covid is. And because of that, hospital beds are getting filled up with covid patients who become immediate priorities which in turn prevents cancer patients from getting the help which help they need. It isn't a case of turning them away for the sake of it.

It isn't lockdown you're up against here, it's Covid. Until that's under control everything else is difficult.

We shouldn't be in this position but we are.
If they stopped testing people who aren’t in hospital how many cases would there be? If we tested everyone in a day how many cases would there be? You’ll not control because you can carry it no matter if you’ve been vaccinated or not, that’s the rub, get the vaccine and you’ll survive, if you don’t that’s your problem if you get it and become ill.
 

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How many are dying of other stuff now though, cancer, suicides etc, if you stopped testing how many would are there actually in hospital with Covid and dying? Anymore than flu in winter ? I’m sorry but Covid will be around forever like flu, we are vaccinating and the vulnerable are all done, we were promised once they were protected we could get on with life, it’s now time to do that. Will people die of Covid in the future, probably but just like other diseases unfortunately that’s a fact of life, enough is enough now.

except it’s not - one more month makes perfect sense
 

ayrshire_blue

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How many are dying of other stuff now though, suicides etc,

Suicide rates haven't gone up since the pandemic began. I think its weird that so many people bring up suicides when there's absolutely nothing to back it up with, and it certainly isn't contagious that makes just going out dangerous to a certain extent in the manner a highly infectious disease does.

if you stopped testing how many would are there actually in hospital with Covid and dying? Anymore than flu in winter ? I’m sorry but Covid will be around forever like flu, we are vaccinating and the vulnerable are all done, we were promised once they were protected we could get on with life, it’s now time to do that. Will people die of Covid in the future, probably but just like other diseases unfortunately that’s a fact of life, enough is enough now.

Enough isnt enough just because loads of people want to stamp their feet and say it is. If we say 'enough is enough' and open everything up and run the country in a pre covid manner it simply can't work. Hospitals fill up to the brim and then what do we do? Genuine question? We've said enough is enough, now we don't have any hospital beds for sick people, Covid or otherwise, so what's the next plan?
 

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So what's the alternative? Turn people away who are struggling to breathe because we can't be fucked with it any more?
With these fuckers in charge it doesn’t really matter. We’ve known for months that younger patients react fantastically well to treatments for COVID (oxygen, dexamethasone etc) so we could have some temporary facilities in that can do a quick bit of oxygen and some drugs that gets patients in and out quickly. You might call them Nightingales? Or we could spaff a small countries GDP on a useless test and trace system, more ’tests’ per million people than almost every other country and continually flip flop between managing COVID and thinking we can eliminate it.

When you hear Hancock saying they didn’t pay people to isolate (THE single biggest thing that would have made a difference throughout this prolonged pandemic) because “they didn’t want people ‘gaming’ the system” it tells you all you need to know. His sister, him, Gove‘s mates and many Tory MP’s and their cronies making millions from this and they were worried about some scally claiming £500 when he didn’t have COVID just about sums them up. Meanwhile, the comfortably off middle class getting 80% of their monthly money for being on holiday for 18 months. (It’s no surprise some don’t want it to end).
Hospitals are currently 97% full but bed numbers are down by a quarter, due to COVID restrictions, we have a workforce that’s shagged out, asked to do more and more (treat COVID, get the waiting lists down, vaccinate everybody, treat COVID, get the waiting lists down, vaccinate everybody faster, do more, do more, do it faster) and there’s still not the first sign of a plan from the useless wankers.

We also know that the fitter you are, the less effects youll usually have if you catch it and the fatter you are, the more likely you are to get into trouble so we keep KFC, McDonalds and the like open whilst banning outdoor sport, closing gyms and closing swimming pools. Clueless doesn’t even begin to describe them.
 

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With these fuckers in charge it doesn’t really matter. We’ve known for months that younger patients react fantastically well to treatments for COVID (oxygen, dexamethasone etc) so we could have some temporary facilities in that can do a quick bit of oxygen and some drugs that gets patients in and out quickly. You might call them Nightingales? Or we could spaff a small countries GDP on a useless test and trace system, more ’tests’ per million people than almost every other country and continually flip flop between managing COVID and thinking we can eliminate it.

When you hear Hancock saying they didn’t pay people to isolate (THE single biggest thing that would have made a difference throughout this prolonged pandemic) because “they didn’t want people ‘gaming’ the system” it tells you all you need to know. His sister, him, Gove‘s mates and many Tory MP’s and their cronies making millions from this and they were worried about some scally claiming £500 when he didn’t have COVID just about sums them up. Meanwhile, the comfortably off middle class getting 80% of their monthly money for being on holiday for 18 months. (It’s no surprise some don’t want it to end).
Hospitals are currently 97% full but bed numbers are down by a quarter, due to COVID restrictions, we have a workforce that’s shagged out, asked to do more and more (treat COVID, get the waiting lists down, vaccinate everybody, treat COVID, get the waiting lists down, vaccinate everybody faster, do more, do more, do it faster) and there’s still not the first sign of a plan from the useless wankers.

We also know that the fitter you are, the less effects youll usually have if you catch it and the fatter you are, the more likely you are to get into trouble so we keep KFC, McDonalds and the like open whilst banning outdoor sport, closing gyms and closing swimming pools. Clueless doesn’t even begin to describe them.

Agree with most of that tbf.

Problem is, we as the public still lose out it in the end whatever we do. If we turn round and say enough is enough and the government have done this or that and simply start living our lives like it were December 2019, it comes at the cost of fellow citizens. Who's fault that is is by the by, it doesn't sit morally right with me that we'd allow it to happen.
 

ayrshire_blue

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Until the next month and the next.

it’s all too easy for you short sighted guys to argue for “just a few more weeks”

No, because delay to long and it will put any exit wave back too far and into the autumn/winter time, when hospitals will have flu and everything else to deal with as we open up.

I think 4-5 weeks is the least worst option we have at our disposal when it comes to the motto of saving lives and protecting the NHS.
 

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Until the next month and the next.

it’s all too easy for you short sighted guys to argue for “just a few more weeks”

pretty comical comment. We have watched history repeating its self over and over and those airing the the side of caution are “short sighted”

I’d suggest those shouting to ignore the data after watching the way this has panned out over the last 14 months are the short sighted. Or just wilfully ignorant.

It’ll be 4/5 weeks at most here to get the double doses up enough. As single dose clearly isn’t enough for the Indian variant. Which is another “history repeating its self” event. Should have red listed India way before we did.
 

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